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faul_sname comments on Neil Armstrong died before we could defeat death - Less Wrong Discussion

-1 Post author: kilobug 25 August 2012 07:49PM

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Comment author: faul_sname 26 August 2012 01:53:42AM *  -2 points [-]

It's not the prediction of a sensible theory of evolution. It has nothing whatsoever to do with evolution, and I struggle to figure out where the idea that it does comes from. The idea, correct or incorrect, is the result of the extrapolation of several, independent trends (in particular, nanotech and AI). We've managed not to kill ourselves so far, but that's partly a matter of luck. Even if the only way we could kill ourselves was with nuclear weapons, there's still a nontrivial chance that we would. Especially with India and Pakistan in on the game now. And there are new threats as well.

Edit: I don't necessarily think that existential disaster is more probable than not, but I definitely think it shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. And since people are downvoting this, I'm wondering where they disagree with that.

Comment author: timtyler 26 August 2012 11:38:46AM *  0 points [-]

Evolutionary progress has an element of luck (sure we could be wiped out by a meteorite tomorrow) but negative events so far have been relatively rare.

IMO, you're reading your trend lines wrong - failing to properly account for the decrease in warfare and the rise of surveillance technology.

We are not talking about a "nontrivial chance" here. We are talking about "existential disaster seems likely". I read that as meaning the chances seem greater than 50%.

Comment author: faul_sname 26 August 2012 06:28:56PM 0 points [-]

I find it very, very hard to estimate the actual chances of any particular existential disaster. I would not put that chance below 20% this century.