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wedrifid comments on Open Thread, October 1-15, 2012 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: wedrifid 02 October 2012 03:19:25PM -2 points [-]

Oxford's course is unusually pure. My freinds reading it don't actually use, you know, computers. They just write their algorithms down on paper.

"Pure" one word you could use for that teaching strategy. Just what it is a 'pure' representation of is up for debate. "Pure backwards self-congratulatory tripe" would be the cynical description.

Comment author: [deleted] 04 October 2012 02:05:14PM 1 point [-]

You're being awfully cynical lately, and I don't like it.

Would you like an internet hug?

Comment author: wedrifid 04 October 2012 02:07:26PM *  1 point [-]

You're being awfully cynical lately, and I don't like it.

I have never respected cheap 'purity' signalling at the expense of practical considerations. Not when I was learning at university, not now. I will always consider the obligation to use paper rather than modern technology to be a bad thing, not an indicator of elite quality.

Would you like an internet hug?

No, you are making me uncomfortable. Please don't ask again.

Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 03 October 2012 05:02:39PM 1 point [-]

I think they're trying to train a Scott Aaronson, not a John Carmack. A Scott Aaronson really does work by not actually using a computer much for anything other than typesetting LaTeX.

Comment author: wedrifid 03 October 2012 06:18:50PM *  1 point [-]

using a computer for [...] typesetting LaTeX.

And that sounds like a brilliant idea. Most of the problems I have with having being forced to write algorithms on paper at times disappear right there. It's even worse than forcing people to write sentences on paper, given the need for correctness in the details.

Comment author: Larks 03 October 2012 06:40:33PM 1 point [-]

Oh, they don't have to write on paper. I just don't know any maths students who do. Handwriting maths is easier than typesetting it.

Comment author: wedrifid 04 October 2012 03:05:43PM *  2 points [-]

Oh, they don't have to write on paper. I just don't know any maths students who do. Handwriting maths is easier than typesetting it.

(At least it is for people who are bad at typesetting.)

Comment author: DaFranker 03 October 2012 07:31:51PM 0 points [-]

Wolfram-style automatic formatting buttons ftw.

Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 04 October 2012 08:12:05AM 0 points [-]

Maybe try with a bit less sarcasm? I'm having genuine trouble parsing what you are objecting to, exactly.

Comment author: wedrifid 04 October 2012 09:36:29AM 0 points [-]

Maybe try with a bit less sarcasm?

There isn't any sarcasm in the grandparent.

Comment author: Larks 03 October 2012 09:36:34AM *  1 point [-]

It's not the teaching strategy, it's the subject matter. See for instance pure maths.