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TimS comments on Open Thread, October 1-15, 2012 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: TimS 02 October 2012 04:57:38PM 0 points [-]

"People not in my tribe are sexy and cool. I want to be like and/or mate with those people. I believe I have a sufficient chance of successfully joining and gaining status within the tribe with sexy and cool people in it. I will now change my signalling beliefs."

Given the context, I understood you to be saying that way to persuade theists was to demonstrate that atheists have higher social status. Regardless of the sociological truth of that assertion, we both know that "high-status" is not correlated with "correct beliefs."

Did I misunderstand you?

Comment author: wedrifid 02 October 2012 05:14:22PM *  1 point [-]

Given the context, I understood you to be saying that way to persuade theists was to demonstrate that atheists have higher social status.

I said something kind of similar to that so I'll accept it for the sake of the argument without implying any endorsement of the claim.

Regardless of the sociological truth of that assertion, we both know that "high-status" is not correlated with "correct beliefs."

I actually doubt this is true, that is there probably is such a correlation---the world is unfair like that. But putting that aside even if I assume the claims you make in the parent are true it still doesn't mean I had any particular premise (or conclusion) about the sanity line.

Did I misunderstand you?

I think you resolved the ambiguous 'this' in palladias's comment in a different direction.

Comment author: [deleted] 03 October 2012 01:21:10AM *  -1 points [-]

we both know that "high-status" is not correlated with "correct beliefs."

I actually doubt this is true, that is there probably is such a correlation

Yeah, but probably it's a very weak one.