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FiftyTwo comments on Open Thread, December 1-15, 2012 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: FiftyTwo 09 December 2012 04:23:24AM 0 points [-]

How should one distinguish disgreement on empirical grounds vs disagreement about values? I'm increasingly convinced I'm miscalibrated on this.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 09 December 2012 06:30:07AM 2 points [-]

My usual approach is to keep asking variations on "What would you expect to experience if that were false?"
If that question has an answer, we're still in the realm of the empirical.
If it doesn't, it's possible we've transitioned into the realm of disagreement about values.

Comment author: Nisan 09 December 2012 04:55:10AM 1 point [-]

Can you give an example of a disagreement?

Comment author: FiftyTwo 09 December 2012 05:05:48AM 1 point [-]

Friend proposes policy A, I think policy A is obviously bad. How do I most efficiently determine whether we have fundamentally different values or believe different facts to be the case?

Comment author: Nisan 09 December 2012 04:57:23PM *  1 point [-]

"I think policy A is bad because it would cause B."
"But policy A wouldn't cause B. Also it would cause C which is good."
"If policy A did turn out to cause B, would A still be good?"