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Comment author: loup-vaillant 22 January 2013 05:36:12PM *  2 points [-]

when she died

She's clinically dead for sure, but probably not information theoretic dead. I'd rather use the latter definition.

Anyway, she did successfully raised her odds, so that looks like good news.

Comment author: [deleted] 22 January 2013 07:10:03PM 8 points [-]

At the end of the day, one only corresponds with the clinically living.

Comment author: loup-vaillant 23 January 2013 01:07:07AM *  1 point [-]

Here is how I feel: the odds are not good, I can do close to nothing about it, and I have to wait a lifetime to boot. It sucks, but there's still that small glimmer of hope.

A coffin doesn't feel that way. When I see one, I just want revenge.

(Edit: /retribution/revenge)

Comment author: jkaufman 26 January 2013 08:03:39PM 1 point [-]

By "probably not" do you mean that her odds of being information-theoretically dead are less than 50%? Where would you put them?

Comment author: loup-vaillant 27 January 2013 10:53:59AM *  2 points [-]

I do mean less than 50%. Something below 10%, even. I'm just quite confident that someone who is cryopreserved, especially recently, still contain enough information to be reconstructed. On the other hand, I don't know enough about the physical structure of the human mind to be completely sure. I'd say most of my probability for her being actually information-theoretically dead lies in my ignorance of the subject.

Anyway, that's about 90% of her being still alive. My probability that she will be revived eventually is much lower, of course. I have to account for existential and catastrophic risks, the economic collapse of Alcor, the failure to further our technology… Heck, some religious fanatics may bomb the place for all I know (that one is below 1%).