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JonatasMueller comments on Questions for Moral Realists - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: JonatasMueller 22 February 2013 02:43:07AM *  0 points [-]

Liking pain seems impossible, as it is an aversive feeling. However, for some people, some types of pain or self-harm cause a distraction from underlying emotional pain, which is felt as good or relieving, or it may give them some thrill, but in these cases it seems that it is always pain + some associated good feeling, or some relief of an underlying bad feeling, and it is for the good feeling or relief that they want pain, rather than pain for itself.

Conscious perceptions in themselves seem to be what is most certain in terms of truth. The things they represent, such as the physical world, may be illusions, but one cannot doubt feeling the illusions themselves.

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 22 February 2013 03:05:08AM 0 points [-]

Let's play the Monday-Tuesday game. On Monday I like pain. On Tuesday I like some associated good feeling that pain provides. What's the difference between Monday and Tuesday?