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7 comments and no answers...? Regardless, you could have answered this question pretty easily and I don't think this was Discussion-post-worthy (certainly a reasonable Open Thread question). But I'll answer your question anyway.
The second line of the linked talk says:
A search of 'Is There Anything Good About Men' in the usual place turns up a copy. Download. What are we looking for? A reminder, the key lines in the linked speech are:
We could search for various words or phrase from this passages which seem to be relatively unique; as it happens, I chose the rhetorical "50%" (but "80%", "40%", "underappreciated", etc all would've worked with varying levels of efficiency since the speech is heavily based on the book), and thus jumped straight to chapter 4, "The Most Underappreciated Fact About Men". A glance tells us that Baumeister is discussing exactly this topic of reproductive differentials, so we read on and a few pages later, on page 63, we hit the jackpot:
A C-f for "Wilder" takes us to pg286, where we immediately read:
(I jailbroke Shriver 2005 for you. Wilder et al 2004, incidentally, fits well with Baumeister remarking in 2007 that the research was done 2 or so years ago.)
And of course you could've done the exact same thing using Google Books: search "baumeister anything good about men" to get to the book, then search-within-the-book for "50%", jump to page 53, read to page 63, do a second search-within-the-book for "Wilder" and the second hit of page 287 even gives you the exact snippet you need:
Thanks for the information.
It would be harder to find out the relative effects of various filters: no children, children don't reproduce, grandchildren don't reproduce, etc.
One of the few instances of pervasive modesty among people is underestimating how good they are at things, and getting irritated at all the other people who don't seem to pass a minimal standard.
As it happens, your comment joins two other recent instances of my failing to notice valuable information at the bottom of a post, so that's a habit I need to change.
Since I didn't realize Baumeister had written a book, I did a few word searches (including in google scholar) and didn't turn anything up. I'd previously raised this as a discussion question, and didn't get any answers suggesting a solid source.
Shouldn't the amount of children that don't reproduce be the same for men and women?
That sounds reasonable, but I'm not sure whether there are countervailing factors when we're talking about lineages. When I say I'm not sure, I mean that I'm just not visualizing the logic clearly enough to have an opinion.
Also, if we're tracking male chromosomes to find out whether men have had children, do we lose track of their daughters?
How much does it matter in ordinary life that descendants presumably follow a power law distribution (lots at the top) rather than a bell curve?
How much of cuckoldry is break-even? That is, a man might be raising another man's child, but some other man might be raising his child.
Does people becoming less violent make a difference to the chances of male reproduction?
Onwards to hypothetical land: How much do men care about having descendants that they will never see? There are occasional scandals in which men who own sperm banks substitute their own sperm, which is interesting because no sex is involved. It also leads me to wonder whether male staff at sperm banks can be trusted.
That depends a lot of the particular men. There are man who do care about it but I think the majority doesn't. Sperm banks pay donors instead of the donor paying for the sperm bank accepting it's sperm.
Yes, you'd need much more detailed genealogical information. There's tons of modern genealogies, of course, but how useful are those outside the modern era?
His book was the second sentence in the page. :)