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Comment author: adamzerner 17 April 2015 10:51:46PM *  0 points [-]

Nope, your longer explanation was perfect, and now I understand, thanks. I'm just a little curious why you would say those things lead to inefficiency instead of unhappiness, but you don't have to elaborate any more here unless you feel like it.

I didn't mean anything deep by that. Inefficiency just means "less than optimal" (or at least that's what I mean by it). For him to say that it will lead to actual unhappiness would mean that the costs are so great that they overcome any associated benefits and push whatever our default state is down until it reaches actual unhappiness. I suspect that the forces aren't strong enough to push us too far off our happiness "set points".

Again, now I'm slightly curious about the rest of it...

Just did a write up here. How convenient.

I wasn't even aware that the organization was inhumane.. yikes

Yeah, it is. Check out the movie Blood Diamond and the song Conflict Diamonds. Not the most formal sources, but at least it'll be entertaining :)

Re: virtue ethics

It seems that you don't want to think about this now. If you end up thinking about it in the future, let me know - I'd love to hear your thoughts!

Comment author: [deleted] 18 April 2015 01:15:29AM *  0 points [-]

Just did a write up here. How convenient.

I like your point about being afraid/ashamed to do something and the two cases in general and with regard to drinking as a social lubricant.

I'll post my drinking experience over there too, though I don't have too much to say.

Not the most formal sources, but at least it'll be entertaining :)

Haha, ok

It seems that you don't want to think about this now. If you end up thinking about it in the future, let me know - I'd love to hear your thoughts!

How convenient. I thought about it a bit more after all. I actually still like my initial idea of virtues being instrumental values. I commented on the link you sent me, but a lot of my comment is similar to what I commented here yesterday...

Comment author: adamzerner 18 April 2015 02:42:03AM 0 points [-]

I actually still like my initial idea of virtues being instrumental values.

As a consequentialist, that's how I'm inclined to think of it too. But I think it's important to remember that non-consequentialists actually think of virtues as having intrinsic value. Of being virtuous.