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Princess_Stargirl comments on When should an Effective Altruist be vegetarian? - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Princess_Stargirl 23 November 2014 03:12:32PM 10 points [-]

I found attempts to follow a vegetarian or vegan diet dramatically reduced my quality of life. Especially veganism was almost unbearable. I couldn't even have a slice of pizza or an ice cream cone! given my experience unless I was 100% convinced I was absolutely obligated to become a vegetarian/vegan I would not do so.

I do however donate 10% of my pre-tax income to developing nations. Which works out to a very large (imo) percentage of my take home pay. I also find this rather unpleasant and distressing but arguments on lesswrong convinced me I was basically obligated to do it. And losing 10% of my pre-tax income is far less painful then giving up meat and vastly less painful than giving up meat + dairy.

It is interesting people have such different internal reactions.

Comment author: DanielFilan 23 November 2014 09:11:25PM 1 point [-]

I'm sorry that your stint with veganism was so unpleasant. There are ways to make it more pleasant though - I regularly eat vegetarian pizza without the cheese, which is a lot more tasty than I imagined it would be before I tried it. Also, vegan ice cream is definitely a thing (both sorbets and soy ice cream fit the bill), although it's probably not sold at ice cream places.

I think the reason that veganism is so easy for me to do is because I substitute tasty non-vegan foods, so it doesn't feel like deprivation. For instance, if I want a warm hearty meal, I'll have dahl instead of a steak, or if I feel junk-food-snacky, I'll get oreos or skittles rather than non-vegan foods.

Comment author: RobertWiblin 24 November 2014 06:44:34PM 1 point [-]

For what it's worth, I've found being vegetarian almost no effort at all. Being vegan is a noticeable inconvenience, especially cutting out the last bits of dairy (and that shows up in your examples, which are both about dairy).

Comment author: gedymin 24 November 2014 11:00:01AM *  0 points [-]

I couldn't even have a slice of pizza or an ice cream cone

Slippery slope, plain and simple. http://xkcd.com/1332/

Reducing mean consumption does not imply never eating ice cream.