Maps require a mind, a consciousness of some sort.
Think of it this way: Godel's incompleteness theorem demonstrates there will always be statements about the natural numbers that are true, but that are unprovable within the system. It's perfectly okay for us to talk about those hypothetical statements as existing in the "platonic" sense, even though we might never really have them in the grasps of our minds and notebooks.
Similarly, it's okay for us to talk about a space of maps even while knowing we can't necessarily generate every map in that space due to constraints on us that might exist. I haven't actually read any Plato, so I might be misusing the term. I'm just using the word "platonic" to describe the entire space of maps, including the ungraspable ones. "Platonic" is merely to distinguish those things from things that actually exist in the territory.
The problem is that, as stated, this claim (a) could never be decided; and (b) has no practical consequences whatsoever.
part a) I endorse Dxu's defense of what I said, and see my reply to him for my objections to what he said.
part b) I disagree in principle with the idea that the validity of things depends on practical consequences, However, the whole point here is to create a starting point from which the rest of everything can be derived, and the rest of everything does have practical consequences
(it may be fair to say that there is no practical reason to derive them from a small starting point, but that is questioning the practicality of philosophy in general)
I'm just using the word "platonic" to describe the entire space of maps, including the ungraspable ones.
So, you're talking about things you can, basically, imagine.
In which sense do "ungraspable maps" exist, but herds of rainbow unicorns gallivanting on clouds do not?
I disagree in principle with the idea that the validity of things depends on practical consequence
I concur with your disagreement :-) but here we have TWO things: (1) unprovable and unfalsifiable; and (2) of no practical consequences.
Consider the claim that there is...
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