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passive_fist comments on Open Thread, Feb. 2 - Feb 8, 2015 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: passive_fist 02 February 2015 08:14:30PM 0 points [-]

The thermodynamics of energy exchange and mass exchange are actually similar. You still get the increase in entropy, even if you are just exchanging energy.

Comment author: Manfred 04 February 2015 08:03:24AM 2 points [-]

One the one hand, this is a good point that points out a weakness in my argument - if states are continuous rather than discrete, one can increase or decrease entropy even with deterministic time-evolution by spreading out or squeezing probability mass.

But I don't know how far outside the microcanonical this analogy you're making holds. Exchanging energy definitely works like exchanging particles when all you know is the total energy, but there's no entropy increase when both are in a single microstate, or when both have the same Boltzmann distribution (hm, or is there?).

I'll think about it too.