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20 Post author: iarwain1 22 February 2015 01:06AM

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Comment author: g_pepper 22 February 2015 04:33:35PM *  3 points [-]

IMO one/week is more realistic than one/day. One of the stated reasons for doing this is:

It would give some of us the motivation to actually go through the Sequences finally

It seems like the above goal would be better realized with a slower pace; it would be pretty easy to miss a posting or two if they are posted one/day. Also, what is the rationale for this:

I recommend re-posting the entire article to LW, including any edits or additions that are new in the book

It seems unnecessary to post the entire article; why not just have a link to the original article? Are there a lot of edits in the book version? If so, and if copyright is not an issue, why not just edit the original post to match what is in the book (assuming this could be done easily). If copyright issues preclude this, then presumably the same copyright issues would preclude posting the book content as new postings. It seems like it will be confusing to have two potentially different versions of each post available on LW.

So I recommend the following:

  1. One post a week

  2. Each post would contain a link to the original post

  3. If possible, the facilitator would provide a summary of the original post and a list of questions/points as a catalyst for discussion, like in the Superintelligence reading group (albeit this would require a fair bit of effort on the part of the facilitator)

  4. Consider updating the original post to match the print version (if there are no copyright issues or other issues)

Comment author: ciphergoth 22 February 2015 04:39:49PM 5 points [-]

At one a week I think it will take decades to complete.

Comment author: iarwain1 22 February 2015 06:18:52PM *  3 points [-]

Seconded, this was my reason for suggesting one a day. I believe there are over 800 articles, so even at one a day that'll take a few years! [Edit: Correction, it seems there will be about 300 articles - see link below.]

Once a day was pretty much the original pace as well.

Comment author: MaximumLiberty 22 February 2015 09:12:41PM 2 points [-]

I was originally for a pace of two per week, just knowing my own work schedule. But if there are truly going to be 800 articles represented in the book, then one a day is the only workable solution. Do we know that the book will be broken out into something like 800 articles?

Comment author: iarwain1 22 February 2015 09:23:25PM *  3 points [-]

I was wrong about the number - the number is approximately 300 articles. I'm basing this on the kickstarter page for the audio version, on the sidebar under where it says "Pledge $50 or more".

Still, 300 articles would take almost a year at 1 per day and almost 6 years at once per week.

One additional thing to note is that most of the articles aren't that long. If you can more or less keep up with Slate Star Codex then I'd guess you should have no problem with once a day Sequences. If you missed a day or two, or even a week or two, it wouldn't take you all that long to catch up.

Maybe we should look at a compromise: Would every other day (so about two years total) maybe work better?

Looks like it's time for yet another poll. My, this thread is getting rather full of those.

What pace would you prefer?

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Comment author: RobbBB 23 February 2015 04:15:08AM 5 points [-]

If you split up some of the longer articles, you might be able to get it to exactly 365 days of blog posts. :)

The eBook will be organized into 26 sequences, all of similar length; so if you want to start new discussion threads, perhaps you should do one thread per sequence rather than one per blog post.

Comment author: ciphergoth 23 February 2015 11:31:28AM 1 point [-]

We should totally try this before doing sequence reruns - do a discussion group on, say, a sequence a week.

Comment author: iarwain1 23 February 2015 05:41:47PM *  4 points [-]

26 sequences one every other week is precisely 52 weeks = the number of weeks in a year. Not bad.

Assuming there are about 300 articles total, that comes out to about 11 or 12 articles per sequence on average, which at one every other week is a little less than once per day.

I think I'd still prefer an article per day (or every other day, as per earlier poll), but I'll let others weigh in on this. Should I do yet another poll?

Comment author: ciphergoth 24 February 2015 12:22:19PM 2 points [-]

I'd sooner go for one a week; I think that's closer to the likely reading pace and it means we quickly find out whether it works. We could easily follow it with an article-a-day presentation if that's what we think is best after learning from the sequence-a-week presentation.

Comment author: TsviBT 25 February 2015 01:16:36AM 1 point [-]

FYI, each sequence is (very roughly) 20,000 words.

Comment author: iarwain1 01 March 2015 05:01:09PM *  0 points [-]

Poll:

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Comment author: iarwain1 22 February 2015 06:27:18PM 3 points [-]

Reasons for re-posting the whole thing:

  • It would facilitate new discussion. Assuming we want people to comment on the new rather than the old thread, it would be annoying to keep having to refer back to an old post when commenting on the new post.
  • Much simpler to just copy/paste the old post & add in some edits than to provide a summary.
  • Only Eliezer can update the original post, as far as I know. So if we want to put in the edits we'll need a new copy.

But a link to the original post is obviously a good idea.

Comment author: ciphergoth 22 February 2015 07:38:29PM 2 points [-]

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