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Lumifer comments on Open thread, Mar. 23 - Mar. 31, 2015 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: DataPacRat 23 March 2015 05:25:46PM 7 points [-]

Camping vs Cryonics

Assuming that a cryonicist a) has a limited budget; b) believes that going solo hiking, canoeing, and camping have salutary effects on mental health; and c) believes that camping provides one of the best available ratios of improved long-term mental functioning to dollars spent...

... then what measures could said cryonicist take to minimize the odds of ending up not just dead, but warm-and-dead? And, secondarily, how much would each such measure cost, and how much would it reduce that risk?

Example 1: A PLB (Personal Locator Beacon) costs around $300, and uses satellites to signal search-and-rescue teams to start looking in roughly an area a mile around. Requires someone alive to push the button, that the PLB can be placed right-side-up. Benefits are increased if, eg, a pen-type flare launcher can more precisely identify location to searchers.

Example 2: A backup cell phone can cost $20, and at least one provider offers service for $10 for the SIM chip and $20 per year if no calls are made. Requires limiting trips to areas within range of cell towers.

Comment author: Lumifer 23 March 2015 05:33:37PM *  2 points [-]

Most forms of SOS signaling require you to be alive to push the button (there are some exceptions, e.g. some marine beacons automatically activate if you fall into water), but I found you another rationalization for a smartwatch :-) I haven't seen an actual app, but it should exist (or be trivially easy to program): monitor your pulse and if it drops to zero, start screaming its head off via email, SMS, FB messages, dial 911, call the Coast Guard, etc. etc.

Comment author: gjm 23 March 2015 05:37:43PM 1 point [-]

So now your watchstrap gets snagged on a tree branch and falls off without your noticing -- and then it dials 911, calls the coast guard, etc. That could make you pretty unpopular.

Comment author: DataPacRat 23 March 2015 05:49:08PM 1 point [-]

One possibility: Designate one or more emergency contacts in case a pulse measurement drops to zero, who can text back to see if you're alright, if the battery's died, or whatnot; and who can /then/ decide to call out the cavalry.

Comment author: Lumifer 23 March 2015 05:48:54PM *  0 points [-]

I think smartwatches are smart enough to notice when they're not on your wrist any more.

P.S. Even without smartwatches, I would be greatly surprised if there is no remote-monitoring medical device which you strap onto yourself and which alerts someone if it thinks you're in trouble. The market for live-alone elderly people is huge.

Comment author: [deleted] 23 March 2015 05:45:11PM 0 points [-]

Or you simply take it off.

Comment author: DataPacRat 23 March 2015 05:47:55PM 0 points [-]

I don't recall yet finding a phone-watch with a reliable pulse sensor. That may be because it's a feature I wasn't looking for, but it's also possible that such a product doesn't yet exist.

Comment author: Lumifer 23 March 2015 06:01:34PM 1 point [-]

You can probably just use one of the fitness bracelets (Fitbit style) and sync them to your phone. I don't know how reliable they are, but one of their explicit purposes is recording your heart rate during exercise.

Comment author: ChristianKl 23 March 2015 10:43:34PM 1 point [-]

Losing the heart rate connection for a few seconds during exercising isn't a big deal.

The old tech with chest straps certainly loses signals from time to time. I'm not sure about the newer tech, but I would doubt that you get cheap tech that doesn't from time to time loses track of the pulse.