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Comment author: advancedatheist 16 April 2015 05:55:00PM *  -2 points [-]

Will romance novelists in the 24th Century write novels featuring virile, "real men" characters in the 21st Century who show up the inadequacies of 24th Century guys?

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 17 April 2015 03:28:17AM 2 points [-]

Start with history. How did the romance novels of 1800, 1900, and 2000 compare?

Comment author: RowanE 17 April 2015 12:19:41PM 0 points [-]

I'm not sure about "who show up the inadequacies of 24th century guys", but romanticising history is present in any society that has history, and androsexual people who prefer manly men are sure to romanticise whatever manly archetypes existed in or can be invented for that age, so at least the first half of that seems inevitable as long as "romance novelist " is still a concept that exists in C24, and they know that gangster rap culture was a thing.

Why do you ask? It seems like just gender-issue-baiting.

Comment author: polymathwannabe 16 April 2015 06:17:21PM 0 points [-]

As opposed to all the other hundred godzillion subjects they could be writing about? Not impossible, but terribly unlikely.

Comment author: ChristianKl 17 April 2015 03:45:51PM -1 points [-]

"Real" is in the 24th century likely to mean something like nonaugemented. I would average 24th century men expect to have the testosterone level and thus sex drive that they want to have.

Bruce Sterling's Distraction includes a nice social conflicts about how some humans want to have a paleo gut flora while others want higher gene-engineered microbes in their gut.

From a 24th century perspective 21st century people might have an innocence worth writing about because they are so optimized.

Comment author: advancedatheist 18 April 2015 01:19:25AM 0 points [-]

"Real" is in the 24th century likely to mean something like nonaugemented. I would average 24th century men expect to have the testosterone level and thus sex drive that they want to have.

We may have the ability to control our glands consciously before too long:

Human thoughts used to switch on genes

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26538-human-thoughts-used-to-switch-on-genes.html#.VTGwLSHBzGc

From a 24th century perspective 21st century people might have an innocence worth writing about because they are so optimized.

Come to think of it, the plot of Brave New World has an element of injecting a retro-model man into an advanced futuristic society, and how a woman in that society reacts to him. Huxley didn't write it as a romance novel, however, because Lenina Crowne's conditioning and promiscuity have impaired her ability to bond with men emotionally (a common topic of discussion in Manosphere blogs); she just obsesses over the Savage's physical attributes, and Huxley cuts off the possibility of her development towards emotional maturity by just ending the novel arbitrarily, with a lot of loose ends.