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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 17 April 2015 06:42:26PM 3 points [-]

http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(15)00266-3?cc=y

To cope with the exceptional computational complexity that is involved in the control of its hyper-redundant arms [ 1 ], the octopus has adopted unique motor control strategies in which the central brain activates rather autonomous motor programs in the elaborated peripheral nervous system of the arms [ 2, 3 ]. How octopuses coordinate their eight long and flexible arms in locomotion is still unknown. Here, we present the first detailed kinematic analysis of octopus arm coordination in crawling. The results are surprising in several respects: (1) despite its bilaterally symmetrical body, the octopus can crawl in any direction relative to its body orientation; (2) body and crawling orientation are monotonically and independently controlled; and (3) contrasting known animal locomotion, octopus crawling lacks any apparent rhythmical patterns in limb coordination, suggesting a unique non-rhythmical output of the octopus central controller. We show that this uncommon maneuverability is derived from the radial symmetry of the arms around the body and the simple pushing-by-elongation mechanism by which the arms create the crawling thrust. These two together enable a mechanism whereby the central controller chooses in a moment-to-moment fashion which arms to recruit for pushing the body in an instantaneous direction. Our findings suggest that the soft molluscan body has affected in an embodied way [ 4, 5 ] the emergence of the adaptive motor behavior of the octopus.

Given sufficient biotech, I'd like to try being an octopus. What would it mean to be the same person with a different brain architecture?

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Comment author: Vaniver 17 April 2015 08:32:23PM 5 points [-]

Note-- you'll need to cut and paste the url. LW doesn't play nicely with urls that contain parenthesis.

You have the escape the parentheses:

This link should work.

[This link](http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822\(15\)00266-3?cc=y) should work.
Comment author: JoshuaZ 17 April 2015 06:45:24PM *  4 points [-]

You can do URLs with parentheses you need when you have the closing paren to have a \ before it. So:

This is your link

Comment author: g_pepper 19 April 2015 04:10:12PM *  0 points [-]

I'd like to try being an octopus. What would it mean to be the same person with a different brain architecture?

Thomas Nagel touches on this question and its implications for physical reductionism of consciousness, the mind/body problem, and of objective discussions of subjective mental experiences in his 1974 essay What is it like to be a bat?.