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Comment author: [deleted] 15 April 2015 01:16:47PM 0 points [-]

Statistically IQ is predictive of a lot of things including higher social skills

How? Pretty sure it was the other way around in high school. Popular dumb shallow people, unpopular smart geeks.

I am not 100% sure what is a SAT is but if it is like a normal school test - memorize stuff like historical dates of battles, barf it back - the probably more related to dedication than intelligence.

Comment author: Viliam 15 April 2015 02:48:02PM *  3 points [-]

Popular dumb shallow people, unpopular smart geeks.

That could be a problem of perception. If someone is book smart and unpopular, people say "he is smart". If someone is smart and popular, people say "he is cool".

There are sportsmen and actors with very high IQ, but no one remembers them as "having high IQ", only as being a great sportsman or a great actor.

Do you know how high IQ Arnold Schwarzenegger has? Neither do I. My point is, when people say "Arnold Schwarzenegger", no one thinks about "I wonder how high IQ that guy has... maybe that could explain some of his success". Maybe he has much higher IQ than Kasparov, but most people would never even start thinking in that direction.

Also there is a difference between intelligence and signalling intelligence. Not everyone with high IQ must necessarily spend their days talking about relativity and quantum physics. Maybe they just invest all their intelligence into improving their private lives.

Comment author: ChristianKl 17 April 2015 01:32:19PM 0 points [-]

Do you know how high IQ Arnold Schwarzenegger has? Neither do I. My point is, when people say "Arnold Schwarzenegger", no one thinks about "I wonder how high IQ that guy has... maybe that could explain some of his success". Maybe he has much higher IQ than Kasparov, but most people would never even start thinking in that direction.

The score I find on the internet for him is 135 which puts him on the same ballpark as Kasparov.

Comment author: ChristianKl 15 April 2015 01:43:52PM 0 points [-]

Popular dumb shallow people, unpopular smart geeks.

You mistake what people signal with their inherent intelligence. Bill O'Reilly doesn't behave as a geek. That change that he's smart. It's like the mistake of thinking that being good at chess is about intelligence.

Unfortunately at the moment I don't find the link to the studies about IQ and social skill, but I think we had previous LW discussions towards IQ positively correlating with social abilities in average society being well established.

I am not 100% sure what is a SAT is but if it is like a normal school test - memorize stuff like historical dates of battles, barf it back

It's not about having memorized information. SAT tests are generally known to be a good proxy for IQ.