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Lumifer comments on Open Thread, May 25 - May 31, 2015 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Lumifer 27 May 2015 06:15:50PM *  4 points [-]

forbidding specific kinds of public speech can under any circumstances prevent outcomes like that?

Police states are great at preventing outcomes like that.

The problem is that history provides a lot of empirical evidence about how "forbidding specific kinds of public speech" works and what it tends to lead to.

Comment author: halcyon 27 May 2015 07:02:44PM -2 points [-]

Do you claim the following proposition is true: Every state where hate speech has been forbidden has been a horrible police state.

Comment author: Lumifer 27 May 2015 07:06:10PM 4 points [-]

There is not much reason to fight strawmen.

"Hate speech" is not a term that characterizes the speech itself, it's a term that expresses the speaker's attitude towards that particular speech. May I recommend a blog post?

Comment author: halcyon 27 May 2015 07:10:22PM -1 points [-]

For the purposes of this argument, I define hate speech as X such that X is a member of set S. (see my other comment)