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Lumifer comments on Open Thread, May 25 - May 31, 2015 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Lumifer 27 May 2015 07:15:07PM 4 points [-]

You people sound awfully sure about far-off future. How well, do you think, an educated Egyptian from, say, 2000 BC would have fared at predicting the future path of the society?

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 27 May 2015 07:26:49PM 3 points [-]

Was there any noticeable technological progress back in 2000 BC?

Looking at science fiction from the 19th century, aerial warfare, armoured land warfare, space exploration were all predicted. The details were all wrong, and I doubt we can predict the details of the future with any great accuracy. But the general theme of humanity expanding across the universe seems a safe extrapolation, even if I don't know whether the starships will be beam riders or ramscoops or wormhole navigators or Alcubierre drive or some other technology that has not yet been conceived.

Comment author: CellBioGuy 29 May 2015 08:36:01AM *  6 points [-]

Was there any noticeable technological progress back in 2000 BC?

Shitloads. Empires rose and fell as they obsoleted each other's military technologies, architecture evolved tremendously, crop plants diversified and became more nutritious, extractive farming techniques gave way to those that preserved the fertility of the soil rather than stripmining it, new naval technology was partially responsible for the late bronze age collapse... (yes I'm aware these gradiate towards 1000 BC)

Comment author: Lumifer 27 May 2015 07:30:59PM 1 point [-]

Was there any noticeable technological progress back in 2000 BC?

What makes you think that in 4000 years people will think there was noticeable technological progress in the XXI century?

But the general theme of humanity expanding across the universe seems a safe extrapolation

Actually, no, if the limit of the speed of light holds, either there won't be much expansion or the result of the expansion won't be very human.

Comment author: James_Miller 27 May 2015 07:55:15PM *  0 points [-]

Fairly well for the next 3000 years since not a lot changed.

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 02 June 2015 03:53:56AM 1 point [-]

Well for starters his decedents would no longer be ruled by someone (purporting to be) a living incarnation of the sun god. Something he would no doubt consider extremely shocking.

Comment author: James_Miller 02 June 2015 01:26:32PM *  -1 points [-]

So we have gone from worshiping the sun god to worshiping the son of god.

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 03 June 2015 03:09:20AM -1 points [-]

Nice pun. Now do you have a serious response?

Comment author: James_Miller 03 June 2015 03:54:43AM *  1 point [-]

The life of a typical Egyptian didn't much change from 2000 BC to 1000 AD. And for most of this time the leaders claimed to have a strong connection or endorsement from the divine. An educated Egyptian living in 2000 BC would be aware of the diversity of religion in the world and would probably expect that over the next 3000 years religious practices would change in form in his country.

Comment author: Lumifer 27 May 2015 08:29:17PM *  1 point [-]

And yet I feel you don't want to follow that example of success :-P

Comment author: CellBioGuy 29 May 2015 08:36:44AM 0 points [-]

Are you joking?

Comment author: James_Miller 29 May 2015 04:19:17PM 1 point [-]

No, the life of the average human didn't much change from 2000 BC to 1000 AD.

Jim