You're looking at Less Wrong's discussion board. This includes all posts, including those that haven't been promoted to the front page yet. For more information, see About Less Wrong.

Clarity comments on Open Thread, Jul. 6 - Jul. 12, 2015 - Less Wrong Discussion

5 Post author: MrMind 06 July 2015 07:31AM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (142)

You are viewing a single comment's thread.

Comment author: Clarity 08 July 2015 08:44:59AM *  2 points [-]

One quantitative finance fund to rule them all?

Machine learning specialists outperform prediction markets and subject matter experts Yet, the quantitative finance industry eagerly laps up former asx employees who supposedly have privellaged knowledge of exchange architecture (they don’t, it’s all published anyway and that which isn’t is privy to freedom of information requests), particularly high frequency trading firms.

I suspect this practice may have more to do with regulatory capture instead. Conspiracy theory aside and assuming there isn’t a meritious benefit to trading firms for such unethical active management, could one expect the merit driven machine learning algorithmic trading platform Kaggle when it sufficiently scales to compete against high frequency trading firms, value investors, proprietary investment banks and day traders simultaneously (is that all the investor classes?)

Comment author: ChristianKl 10 July 2015 03:55:29PM 2 points [-]

High frequency trading is not about having complex machine learning algorithms. It's about computers making decisions in very short amounts of time.

Comment author: Lumifer 10 July 2015 04:17:45PM 2 points [-]

Actually, it's about both. Low latency without a good strategy will not help you.

Comment author: Lumifer 08 July 2015 07:53:50PM 1 point [-]

So, if they are so smart how come they ain't superrich yet?

Comment author: Clarity 09 July 2015 01:50:18AM 1 point [-]

But they are. That's how they're funding it. And once they're open to investors, they're going to become even richer, then once they start operating the fund, that's when they'll go to the moon.

Or at least, that's what it looks like. But I'm asking here just in case I'm getting carried away with this. Even things which look ideal on paper can go astray. If you model the entire approach as an evolutionary algorithm (crowd sourcing algorithms and killing off the losers) then one would imagine that it's just a matter of time before they dominate the finance industry. This all seems for too optimistic though - so I crave someone showing me I'm wrong!

Comment author: Lumifer 09 July 2015 02:32:09PM 3 points [-]

But they are.

Really, are they?

If you model the entire approach as an evolutionary algorithm (crowd sourcing algorithms and killing off the losers) then one would imagine that it's just a matter of time before they dominate the finance industry.

You seem to forget that this is precisely how markets work and have been working for centuries.