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Lumifer comments on Open Thread, Jul. 13 - Jul. 19, 2015 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Lumifer 15 July 2015 05:57:22PM *  7 points [-]

Maybe. There is very little reliable information about Israeli Popeye missile variants which are the cruise missiles that the Dolphins are presumably equipped with. Specifically no one knows whether they are capable of delivering a nuclear warhead over a 600+ miles range (the distance from the Mediterranean to Tehran).

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 15 July 2015 06:18:22PM -1 points [-]

OK, if you want to express doubt about whether Israel has nuclear missiles, fine, whatever. But a minute ago, you were claiming that nuclear missiles distinguished the old from the new Dolphins. According to my NTI link they have the same diameter missile tubes. It doesn't matter if the Popeye turbo goes farther than the Popeye. They all fit on the old Dolphins.

Comment author: Lumifer 15 July 2015 06:22:33PM *  9 points [-]

Not quite. I am not expressing doubts that Israel has nuclear missiles, I am expressing doubts that the submarine-launched missiles carrying a nuclear warhead can reach Tehran.

I also didn't say that "nuclear missiles distinguished the old from the new Dolphins" -- I said that the old and the new Dolphins are quite different, and they are. I agree that the old Dolphins are capable launching Popeyes (I was mistaken to imply that they had no nuclear launch capability).