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Yes, the whole point of the revolution was to remove the U.S.-appointed monarch and reverse the pro-Western trend he had started. And then Iraq invaded Iran because it was afraid the revolution would spread.
Just one year after the revolution, Jimmy Carter proclaimed that the Persian Gulf was the U.S.'s personal playground, and no one (else) was allowed to mess with it. Bush I and Bush II acted accordingly. Even the continued goodwill toward Saudi Arabia is a cause of worry for Iran, as they're sectarian rivals. And then there's Israel, which is viewed as a representative of U.S. interests against Muslim populations.
The Second Iraq war was started on the pretext that Iraq already had WMDs. For Iran, having them isn't going to stop a U.S. invasion.
Sigh. OK, we live in different universes. I wish you luck in yours.
He needs less luck than you since his contains the President of the United States and most of academia.
I don't quite see how that implies he needs less luck. If anything, I think he's more screwed X-)
You really are in your own delusional universe if you think the revolution had nothing to do with removing the foreign-imposed dictator.
Why, thank you for such a devastatingly convincing argument. However I wasn't trying to discuss Iran with you -- that seems to be pretty useless-- I was just pointing out that your assertion that "anyone acquainted with the facts... should come to the same conclusion" is false.
In fact, such an assertion is very common for people who are not capable of imagining how anyone could possibly hold a different view. On LW such people are called mind-killed.
You didn't cite any evidence before declaring that polymathwannabe was wrong. You aren't actually engaging the discussion at all.
What discussion is possible if "anyone acquainted with the facts... should come to the same conclusion" and people disagreeing with you "really are in [their] own delusional universe"?
That comment was simply mirroring what you said to polymathwannabe; that they must be in a different universe to disagree with you. You still have only provided lazy snark rather than substance.
That the revolution was to remove the American influence seems to me much weaker, and thus easier to prove, than the claim that it was directly related to 1953.