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MattG comments on Open Thread, Jul. 13 - Jul. 19, 2015 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: [deleted] 15 July 2015 11:16:07PM 0 points [-]

I don't see any moral reason why this should not happen, aside from deontological. It's possible to make the case that you would be more likely to end up in a dsyfunctional relationship, but it's possible to make the opposite case too - you have a much better idea of what the person is REALLY like before entering into a relationship with them, so you're less likely to enter into a relationship if you're incompatible.

I think this is one of those "gay marriage 50 years ago" things. People are going to come up with all sorts of excuses why it's wrong, simply because they're not comfortable with it.

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 21 July 2015 03:50:13AM 0 points [-]

I think this is one of those "gay marriage 50 years ago" things. People are going to come up with all sorts of excuses why it's wrong, simply because they're not comfortable with it.

And do you have evidence they were wrong? According to gay activist groups themselves half of all male homosexual relationships are abusive, for example.

Comment author: [deleted] 28 July 2015 04:32:47AM 0 points [-]

Almost all of the evidence I've seen has shown they're wrong. A quick google for statistics on incidences of abuse vs. heterosexual relationships showed they were wrong, and the few sources I've seen (which I couldn't find through my quick google) that showed the opposite where from biased organizations already predisposed against homosexuality.

I could be convinced of the opposite, but that one sentence you gave will hardly bump my prior.

Comment author: Lumifer 15 July 2015 11:56:41PM 1 point [-]

People are going to come up with all sorts of excuses why it's wrong, simply because they're not comfortable with it.

Isn't this a fully general explanation for anything at all?

Comment author: [deleted] 15 July 2015 11:59:08PM *  0 points [-]

It could be, for anything that people aren't comfortable with. This isn't in any way a rebuttal to arguments - it's an explanation for bad/non-arguments.

Comment author: Elo 15 July 2015 11:41:01PM 0 points [-]

I think this is one of those "gay marriage 50 years ago" ...

That's partway where the original discussion was going.

less likely to enter into a relationship if you're incompatible.

if only that were true for all people who enter relationships.

(rational relationships is a recent pet topic of mine)

I would apply the rule that I apply to polyamory - there are ways to do it wrong, and ways to do it less wrong. I do wonder if it has an inherent wrongness risk to it, but people probably implied that about being gay 50 years ago...

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 21 July 2015 03:51:05AM 2 points [-]

but people probably implied that about being gay 50 years ago...

And I've yet to see evidence that they were wrong.