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Elo comments on Should you write longer comments? (Statistical analysis of the relationship between comment length and ratings) - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Elo 21 July 2015 04:47:21AM -1 points [-]

no I couldn't think of it before I sugested the idea, please be explicit about it. exactly what will go wrong and is there a way to solve that without breaking the entire idea?

Comment author: Lumifer 21 July 2015 05:12:12AM 1 point [-]

People will still write short replies.

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Comment author: gjm 21 July 2015 02:01:09PM 2 points [-]

And then get a storm of downvotes that cancels out the benefit they hoped to gain by padding their comment. And then probably not do it again.

What I'd be more worried about is that short comments may be more valuable than you would think from their average karma -- e.g., perhaps in some cases short not-exceptionally-insightful comments form (as it were) the skeleton of a discussion, within which insights might emerge. Or perhaps if everyone felt they mustn't post short comments unless they were exceptionally insightful, the barrier to participation would feel high enough that scarcely anyone would ever post anything, and LW would just wither.

Comment author: Elo 21 July 2015 05:52:58AM 0 points [-]

sure. some people will. and some people will re-think their choices and write with more effort. and some people will accept -1 karma. I don't see these 3 choices as a problem, if we can marginally increase the quality of interactions...

Comment author: Lumifer 21 July 2015 04:22:47PM 4 points [-]

I don't expect that an incentive to add some unnecessary volume will improve the quality of comments.

Recall Blaise Pascal's "I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time" :-)

Comment author: Elo 22 July 2015 01:47:03AM 0 points [-]

a lovely quote, I would not say that volume is correlated with quality, but I would say the potential benefits outweigh the disadvantages. Obviously enough people disagree with me.

Comment author: David_Bolin 21 July 2015 07:41:54AM 2 points [-]

I don't think this would be helpful, basically for the reason Lumifer said. In terms of how I vote personally, if I consider a comment unproductive, being longer increases the probability that I will downvote, since it wastes more of my time.