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Gunnar_Zarncke comments on The Just-Be-Reasonable Predicament - Less Wrong Discussion

5 Post author: Satoshi_Nakamoto 16 July 2015 03:17AM

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Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 16 July 2015 07:54:03AM 1 point [-]

The scrubs you mention seem comparable to bruce.

Comment author: Satoshi_Nakamoto 16 July 2015 12:15:12PM *  1 point [-]

Yes. They seem pretty close to me. I think it is a bit different though. I think the bruce article was trying to convey the idea that Bruce was a kind of gaming masochist. That is, he wanted to lose.

An example quote is:

If he would hit a lucky streak and pile up some winnings he would continue to play until the odds kicked in as he knew they always would thus he was able to jump into the pit of despair and self-loathing head first. Because he needed to. And Bruce is just like that.

The difference as I see it is that bruce loses through self sabotage because of unresolved issues in his psyche and the scrub loses through self sabotage because they are too pedantic.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 16 July 2015 09:30:20PM 1 point [-]

I don't think pedantry is anything like the key element of scrubbitude. As I understand it, a scrub is interested in 'fairness', which tends to mean shallow learning curves, balance between options (even when it is not called-for), and their winning.

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 16 July 2015 06:02:53PM 0 points [-]

the scrub loses through self sabotage because they are too pedantic.

Which is also a psych problem. But I agree that it is different. They don't want to loose but they also don't want to win. Seems like an in-between state.