No, I do not think that your fallacy depends on what DVH thinks.
If I'm saying something to have an effect in another person then the quality of my reasoning process depends on whether my model of the other person is correct.
It's like debugging a phobia at a LW meetup. People complain that language isn't logical, but in the end the phobia is gone. The fact that the language superficially pattern matches to fallacies is besides the point as long as it has the desired consequences.
You're confusing risk aversion and learned helplessness.
No, I'm talking to a person who at least self-labels as schizoid and about whom I have more information beyond that.
If I would think the issue is risk aversion and I wanted to convince him, I would appeal to the value of courage. Risk aversion doesn't prevent people from considering an option and seeing the act of considering an option as irresponsible.
What result did I achieve here? I got someone who hates his job to think about whether to learn a different skillset to switch to a more enjoyable job and ask for advice about what he could do. He shows more agentship about his situation.
If I'm saying something to have an effect in another person then the quality of my reasoning process depends on whether my model of the other person is correct.
LOL. Let me reformulate that: "If I'm trying to manipulate another person, I can lie and that's "besides the point as long as it has the desired consequences". Right? X-)
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