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Jiro comments on Political Debiasing and the Political Bias Test - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: ChristianKl 12 September 2015 10:43:07AM 1 point [-]

Another example is the World Giving Index. While the answer, that the US gives more then European states is probably true, the fact that the index has the US tied with Myanmar is extremely strong evidence that the index is BS.

Whether or not the index produces that effect seems to be a fairly objective question. If conversatives get this right but biased liberals get it wrong, this indeed shows bias.

Comment author: Jiro 12 September 2015 04:31:39PM 3 points [-]

Analogy: I describe a real-life situation of a police officer shooting a suspect. I then ask people what they think the race of the police officer and suspect are. Because I am referring to a specific real-life case, the question has a single, factual, answer, and people's answer is either correct or not.

Yet I can manipulate the question to show liberal bias or conservative bias, my choice, simply by which case I choose to ask the question about.

The best way to ask that question to legitimately detect bias would be to choose a typical case, and to assume that people who haven't heard of the specific case would answer depending on the facts about typical cases.

And in this situation, a typical case would be an index of X that accurately measures X. Choosing an index that doesn't accurately measure X would skew the ability to use that question to detect bias, since I expect that unbiased people who haven't heard of the index in question would answer based on an accurate measure of X.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 12 September 2015 10:47:54PM 2 points [-]

That's an interesting one-- I think black people are disproportionately at risk of being killed by the police in the US, but about as many white people as black get killed.