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RomeoStevens comments on ClearerThinking's Fact-Checking 2.0 - Less Wrong Discussion

23 Post author: Stefan_Schubert 22 October 2015 09:16PM

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Comment author: VoiceOfRa 23 October 2015 01:36:51PM 8 points [-]

Reposting by comment from your post on omnilibrium:

You failed to address, or even acknowledge the question, of who fact-checks the fact-checkers. For example, you mention PolitiFact, it has a acquired a reputation for downplaying some politicians lies, and in some cases even outright classifying true statements as lies by others.

In general, this proposal is just silly. After all the media is supposed to fack-check politicians but it is rather notorious for its own biases and even occasional lies. Why would we expect self-proclaimed fact-checkers to be any better?

Also, judging by the upvotes this post has recieved and the rest of the comments, it appears even most LWers will accept someone's claim to be stating facts without question.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 23 October 2015 09:12:53PM 6 points [-]

This a is a fully general counterargument to everything from consumer reports to examine.com to the organic movement. Basically anything that attempts to help people be better informed can be accused of lost purposes.

Comment author: [deleted] 24 October 2015 05:06:05PM *  5 points [-]

i think you could steelman this as "You should only use fact checkers who don't have significant adverse incentives". Consumer Reports and Examine.com fit the bill, politifact may not.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 26 October 2015 06:38:52AM 1 point [-]

That's fair.