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I see that you can read my mind and my votes. Glad you have that ability. Can you please provide evidence of what I am thinking and how I am voting? Thanks!
You can't and you won't. Your statements are patently false. I have in fact not consistently downvoted everyone who criticized me. I try to follow the general guidelines on voting. Please avoid making false statements in the future.
Anyway, not really interested in engaging in a conversation where you have vague accusations again, which are part of your general agenda against Intentional Insights, including making abusive/trollish claims, as you have previously explicitly acknowledged your intentions to be.
EDIT: Edited to include the link to the general guidelines on voting.
It's part of the Dark Arts package. I'll dryly observe that I knew you downvoted him - how do you think I knew that you downvoted him? It's not like downvotes come with names attached. Yes, I can "read your mind", which is to say, I read the -massive- amounts of connotation information associated with otherwise bland text.
You, uh, admitted to it? "I thought his comments were not worth attention"
If it helps to know, extra downvotes your getting specifically in this thread, but not other ones, are coming from me. This comment isn't meant as a glib statement to signal my affective disapproval. I just think this conversation is going nowhere, and think the quality of dialogue is getting worse. I'm downvoting these comments as I would others. I'm commenting so you know why I'm downvoting, and don't cast aspersions at other users.
I can generally tell where downvotes are coming from. The aspersion I threw at Gleb is that he is, as far as I can tell, using sockpuppet accounts to upvote his own stuff (when he thinks it's important). Complaining about my own downvotes would be petty and counterproductive. (Particularly since my total karma score remains unchanged from the beginning of this debacle. It was up 100 at one point, but dropped back down.)
I understand you use posturing and accusations without evidence as part of your Dark Arts arsenal, and accept that. I doubt anyone will come across this comment, since it's so far down and the thread is not new. Just wanted you to know personally, in case you aren't simply posturing, that I don't use sockpuppets. I have a number of Less Wronger friends who support the cause of spreading rational thinking broadly, and whenever I make significant posts or particularly salient comments, I let them know, so that they can give me optimizing suggestions and feedback.
Since they happen to share many of my views, they sometimes upvote my comments. They generally don't participate actively, and this is a rare exception on the part of Raelifin, as they do not want to be caught in the backlash. So FYI for the future. Feel free to continue making these accusations for Dark Arts purposes if you wish, but I just wanted you to know.
The term for extreme versions of this is "meatpuppet". Of course having friends is not the same thing as having meatpuppets, and I have no way of knowing to what extent your friends are LW participants who just happen to be your friends and would have upvoted your articles anyway, and to what extent they're people who come here only to upvote your articles for you. The nearer the latter, the more meatpuppety.
Well, didn't expect other people besides myself and OrphanWilde to still be reading this thread, updating on that.
The people who I'm talking about are LW participants, I wouldn't ask them to give me feedback and advice on my writing and engagement otherwise, what's the point of doing so? To be clear, far from all of them upvote my comments, as they don't agree with everything I write, of course. And my point in bringing their attention to it is for me to improve my communication, and also help myself update. It's harder to update when things are said in a hostile way by faceless LW commenters, but my friends can provide me with a trusted external perspective on things. They do tend to agree with most stuff, sometimes choose to upvote, and rarely comment, for the reasons stated above.
I'm sharing all of this for the sake of transparency, as this is a strong value I hold. Not something I had to share, and I know it arouses suspicions, but this is my choice due to my personal value system.
LOL. So no sockpuppets but a cheerleading squad on call..? X-)
I responded about this above.
Thanks for letting me know!
As I stated above, I am committed to transparency and openness, which is why I acknowledged downvoting the comments from Vaniver.
Your lie was the following:
I have specific evidence that I actually upvoted some people who made statements not friendly to me when I thought they made good points worthy of public consideration. Please avoid lying in the future. It really harms your reputation.