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Viliam comments on Open Thread, January 4-10, 2016 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Viliam 08 January 2016 11:55:52AM *  5 points [-]

I am not sure what exactly you wanted to say. All I got from reading it is: "human anatomy is complicated, non-biologists hugely underestimate this, modifying the anatomy of human brain would be incredibly difficult".

I am not what is the relation to the following part (which doesn't speak about modifying the anatomy of human brain):

It felt implied that 'rationality' was a culture of either hacking humanity, or patching together the best practices accumulated in the past

Are you suggesting that for increasing rationality, using "best practices" will be not enough, changes in anatomy of human brain will be required (and we underestimate how difficult it will be)? Or something else?

Comment author: Lumifer 08 January 2016 03:48:57PM 4 points [-]

I am not sure what exactly you wanted to say.

I read Romashka as saying that the clean separation between the hardware and the software does not work for humans. Humans are wetware which is both.

Comment author: Romashka 08 January 2016 01:10:32PM *  4 points [-]

That, and that those changes in the brain might lead to other changes not associated with intelligence at all. Like sleep requirements, haemorrages or fluctuations in blood pressure in the skull, food cravings, etc. Things that belong to physiology and are freely discussed by a much narrower circle of people, in part because even among biologists many people don't like the organismal level of discussion, and doctors are too concerned with not doing harm to consider radical transformations.

Currently, 'rationality' is seen (by me) as a mix of nurturing one's ability to act given the current limitations AND counting on vastly lessened limitations in the future, with some vague hopes of adapting the brain to perform better, but the basis of the hopes seems (to me) unestablished.

Comment author: Viliam 11 January 2016 09:02:04AM 0 points [-]

Currently, 'rationality' is seen (by me) as a mix of nurturing one's ability to act given the current limitations

That's also more or less how I see it. I am not planning to perform a brain surgery on myself in the near future. :D