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IlyaShpitser comments on Open Thread, January 4-10, 2016 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: IlyaShpitser 12 January 2016 10:53:01PM 3 points [-]

In the words of Calvin's dad, it builds character.

Comment author: [deleted] 18 January 2016 08:17:17PM 0 points [-]

Ah. You mean you'll act as Reviewer 2. Excellent.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 18 January 2016 08:18:27PM 0 points [-]

There is a relevant quote from Faust by Mephistopheles.

Comment author: [deleted] 18 January 2016 08:19:22PM 0 points [-]

That being, for those of us too gauche to have read Faust in the original?

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 18 January 2016 08:23:03PM *  0 points [-]

Ein Teil von jener Kraft,

Die stets das Böse will und stets das Gute schafft.

Ich bin der Geist der stets verneint!


Part of that power which would

Do evil constantly and constantly does good.

I am the spirit of perpetual negation

Comment author: [deleted] 19 January 2016 06:07:17AM 0 points [-]

Anyway, could you PM me your email address? I figure that for a start at being Reviewer 2, I might as well send you the last thing I wrote along these lines, and then start writing the one I've actually just promised.

Comment author: [deleted] 19 January 2016 06:06:31AM 0 points [-]

I really don't think that Reviewer 2 has anything to do with Lucifer, or with the Catholic view of Lucifer/Satan as self-thwarting.

Comment author: gjm 19 January 2016 12:33:06PM 1 point [-]

I think you are overestimating how literally and seriously Ilya intended his reference to be taken.

I don't think the intended parallel goes beyond this: the devil (allegedly) tries to do evil and ends up doing good in spite of that; a highly critical reviewer feels (to the reviewee) like he's doing evil but ends up doing good in spite of that.

Comment author: [deleted] 19 January 2016 03:46:20PM 0 points [-]

Ah. But of course the reviewer thinks he's good, from his point of view within the system.

Comment author: gjm 19 January 2016 03:53:19PM 1 point [-]

Oh yes, indeed. (For me that's actually part of why the parallel Ilya is drawing is funny.)