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Comment author: sight 21 April 2016 06:31:29PM 2 points [-]

I am pleased that major combat operations were ended in two theaters, and that no new ones were launched.

So what about Libya? What about the fight against ISIS? The former was a quick-strike operation that caused the country in question to go to hell fast. The latter is an example of things going to hell so badly after a "successfully ended operation" that we had to intervene again.

Comment author: Riothamus 21 April 2016 08:51:36PM -1 points [-]

As compared to what alternative? There is no success condition for large scale ground operations in the region. If the criticism of the current administration is "failed to correct the lack of strategic acumen in the Pentagon" then I would agree, but I wonder what basis we have for expecting an improvement.

It seems to me we can identify problems, but have no available solutions to implement.

Comment author: sight 21 April 2016 09:25:27PM 2 points [-]

As compared to what alternative?

Well, not intervening in Libya for starters.

Comment author: Riothamus 22 April 2016 04:03:15PM 0 points [-]

What are your criteria for good foreign policy choices then? You have conveyed that you want Iraq to be occupied, but Libya to be neglected, so non-intervention clearly is not the standard.

My current best guess is 'whatever promotes maximum stability'. Also, how do you expect these decisions are currently made?

Comment author: sight 22 April 2016 11:05:46PM 0 points [-]

I wouldn't object nearly as much to occupying Libya as to what Obama actually did. Namely, intervene just enough to force Gaddafi out and leave a huge mess.

Actually I would still object, but that's because Gaddafi had previously abandoned his WMD program under US pressure. So getting rid of him now sends a very bad message to other thrid world dictators contemplating similar programs.