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Comment author: ChristianKl 08 February 2016 12:00:26AM -2 points [-]

Overall, PUA has seen remarkably little change since 2007, though there's definitely been a welcome emphasis on 'inner game' and 'being a natural' as being the next level, and low-level tactics and tricks as useful training wheels that can eventually be dispensed with to a large extent.

In the US that might be true, when looking at the people I know in Germany who make money in that industry, a lot of them say that the 2007 PUA stuff creates more harm than good.

Instead of getting told to force myself to do approaches that make me feel unconfortable I get told that it would be good for me to do more non-violent communication style expressions of my own desires.

But even in the US there are people who speak at PUA conferences and take the label of PUA as an insult and claim there are there to get the people away from PUA style thinking.

Comment author: Old_Gold 10 February 2016 03:42:36AM 3 points [-]

Instead of getting told to force myself to do approaches that make me feel unconfortable I get told that it would be good for me to do more non-violent communication style expressions of my own desires.

So how does that actually help with seducing girls? Because that sounds like it simply decayed into yet another "generic self-help movement".

Comment author: ChristianKl 10 February 2016 11:56:59AM 0 points [-]

The person in question does write articles about how to get girls to have sex in the bathroom of a nightclub and make his money with the blog hosting those articles. That was the specific personal advice he gave me at the end of spending 10 days at a retreat in nature together.

Because that sounds like it simply decayed into yet another "generic self-help movement".

Actually changing the substance through "generic self-help" seems to work better for the goal of getting woman than focusing on learning tactics for getting woman.

The idea of learning a bunch of techniques to change woman into liking you instead of working to change yourself doesn't seem to be successful.

Comment author: bogus 11 February 2016 07:33:30AM 0 points [-]

That was the specific personal advice he gave me at the end of spending 10 days at a retreat in nature together.

Makes sense then. He got to know you quite well, and realized that a 'direct' style would work best for you.

The idea of learning a bunch of techniques to change woman into liking you instead of working to change yourself doesn't seem to be successful.

That's not really what's happening, though. The techniques are there to change the image you're presenting and ensure that it reflects you at your best and most attractive. That's why 'the inner game' (changing yourself) and 'the outer game' (changing your social image/approach) are largely seen as complementary and mutually reinforcing.

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