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Comment author: Viliam 03 March 2016 02:10:49PM *  0 points [-]

It's not really politics that is the target of the ban, it's a certain type of politics.

Nope, it's a certain type of behavior.

And given that they were booted from LW for their views,

Nope.

sticking a thumb in the eye of LW is entirely predictable.

Yes, this attitude is a part of the behavior.

Generally, you guys love to behave like predators. Never take "no" for an answer, double down when someone refuses to debate with you (but when someone does, it's obvious you don't listen anyway), then switch to karma assassinations when arguments fail, or otherwise threaten revenge. You probably believe that this is the right (pun intended) strategy, and if only you stay persistent enough, everyone will sooner or later bend over and take it in the ass. Thus sayeth Gnon or whichever idiotic abbreviation you worship today.

Meanwhile, in the real world, being an asshole often works short-term, but in longer term, there are some complications. Such as being publicly recognized for what you are, and not being welcome among people who have higher standards of interaction.

By the way, you guys are much less different from the SJW predators than either side would admit, except that they are pros (because they were selected from a much larger pool of candidates) and you are mostly wankers. Just saying, because you are going to downvote this comment anyway.

But don't mind me. Follow your own strategy and see where it leads you.

Comment author: Lumifer 03 March 2016 03:47:04PM *  3 points [-]

Generally, you guys love to behave like predators.

Oh, boy. Who's that "you guys"? I don't think bbdd is one of the NRx.

In any case, let me point out that you just threw a hissy fit. That wasn't a good move... X-/

Comment author: Viliam 03 March 2016 03:55:46PM *  3 points [-]

Sure. I'm going to spend the rest of the day offline, to clear my mind.

Comment author: RowanE 03 March 2016 03:42:59PM 2 points [-]

Downvoted for the kind of attitude actually described in Politics Is The Mind-Killer, the NRxs historically tending v to be the worst offenders is irrelevant.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 03 March 2016 02:43:50PM 1 point [-]

Nope, it's a certain type of behavior.

Nope. Banning a certain type of behavior was used as cover for banning a certain politics.

Then at some moment Eliezer became tired of being known as "the guy who hosts the neoreactionary website" and publicly disowned them.

I don't see behavior as the issue identified here, I see being associated with certain political ideas.

And given that they were booted from LW for their views,
Nope

If you want to be nitpicky, then yes, they personally weren't booted, just discussion of the offending ideas was booted.

you guys

Are you passing out honorary NR degrees? Don't think I'm entirely on board, though they make a lot of good points.

love to behave like predators.

It's predatory to discuss ideas. It's not predatory to prevent people from discussing ideas through institutional power.

double down when someone refuses to debate with you

Isn't it inconvenient when people you disagree with won't shut up? Don't worry, you can probably make them.

being an asshole often works short-term, but in longer term, there are some complications.

Ah yes. Maybe I was around. I do recall discussing someone's equivalence of "NR" = "Assholes". Or maybe that was a PUA discussion. Basically, I disagree with you, therefore you're an asshole.

And you're right in the sense that having unpopular ideas often comes with a cost.

you guys are much less different from the SJW predators than either side would admit

Funny, you seemed just like a SJW predator to me. "Shut up" is also their answer to ideas they disagree with.

Just saying, because you are going to downvote this comment anyway.

Actually, I've upvoted one of your comments in this thread, hadn't downvoted any others, and had no intention of downvoting this one. But don't let that keep you from feeling persecuted by a mean old predator.