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Viliam comments on Open Thread Feb 29 - March 6, 2016 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Viliam 07 March 2016 08:55:21PM -1 points [-]

It looks like you have a tendency to put all the people and all the views you dislike into one big bucket and say "They are all the same".

That's why I said 90%. There are also obvious differences: Putin still keeps a democratic facade in Russia, he supports Orthodox Christianity, and ethnic Russians are considered the superior race. As far as I know, NRs would abhor even pretend-democracy, would support religion but not Christianity because that inevitably leads to progressivism; and would support an idea of superior ethnic group but probably only if it includes themselves.

But they could have a nice debate about how Western civilization is weak, decadent, and doomed to failure; how giving rights to homosexuals is obviously stupid; how religion is necessary for a strong society; etc.

You are not interested in what makes some political systems work and others fail..?

You still haven't convinced me that Switzerland is a failure. I also don't know an example of a real country without elections where I would be tempted to move. Shall we discuss fictional evidence?

Comment author: Torchlight_Crimson 11 March 2016 03:01:15AM 2 points [-]

would support religion but not Christianity because that inevitably leads to progressivism

Depending on which neoreactionary. The neoreactionaries I'm familiar with, admittedly a tiny subset, are pro-traditional, i.e., non-progressive Christianity.

I also don't know an example of a real country without elections where I would be tempted to move.

How many real countries do you know without elections, period? I here the UAE is rather nice.

Comment author: Lumifer 07 March 2016 09:38:28PM *  0 points [-]

But they could have a nice debate about how Western civilization is weak, decadent, and doomed to failure; how giving rights to homosexuals is obviously stupid; how religion is necessary for a strong society; etc.

That's part of what I mean by saying that you put everyone you dislike into one big bucket. Let me link again the post I already mentioned. I don't notice it talking about homosexuals or religion, do you? Do you expect the author to broadly agree with Putin?

You still haven't convinced me that Switzerland is a failure.

I do not believe I have tried.