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ChristianKl comments on Open thread, Mar. 14 - Mar. 20, 2016 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: ChristianKl 14 March 2016 06:03:30PM 2 points [-]

The part of focusing your efforts on the right task is a rationality skill.

Recently one rationalist wrote on facebook how he used physical rationality to make his his shoulder heal faster after an operation and produce less pain. Having accurate models of reality is very useful in many cases.

Comment author: moridinamael 16 March 2016 04:17:45PM 1 point [-]

What is "physical rationality"?

Comment author: ChristianKl 16 March 2016 08:49:44PM 0 points [-]

It's a new coinage, so the term isn't well-defined. On the other hand here are reasons to use the term.

On key aspect of "physical rationality" is a strong alignment between your own physical body and your own map of it. An absence of conflicts between system I and system II when it comes to physicality.

Comment author: moridinamael 16 March 2016 09:55:21PM 1 point [-]

So I suppose things like the Alexander Technique, possibly Yoga, certain martial arts and sports might be implicated?

Comment author: ChristianKl 16 March 2016 10:44:57PM 0 points [-]

I don't know all influences in this particular case but it's certainly that direction. There was a reference to the book "A Guide to Better Movement" by Todd Hargrove.

Comment author: 4hodmt 16 March 2016 10:57:53AM 0 points [-]

Assuming he only had one shoulder operated on, where was the control shoulder?

Comment author: ChristianKl 16 March 2016 11:18:01AM *  0 points [-]

His doctor was dumbfounded over the result and the doctor has seen control shoulders.

Comment author: dhoe 18 March 2016 01:02:22PM 1 point [-]

Doctors being dumfounded is a hallmark of irrationalist stories. Not saying this one is - I don't even know the story here - but as someone who grew up around a lot of people who basically believed in magic, I can conjure so many anectotes of people thinking their doctors were blown away by sudden recoveries and miraculous healings. I mostly figure doctors go "oh cool it's going pretty well" and add a bit of color for the patient's benefit.

Comment author: ChristianKl 18 March 2016 01:50:52PM *  0 points [-]

A lot of doctors will be suprised if someone walks over hot coals and afterwards has no blisters or burning marks. Yet, at Anthony Robbins seminars thousands walk over hot coals and most of them don't develop blisters.

The human body is complex there are a lot of real phenomena that can dumfounded doctors. If you think doctors are infallible you might want to read http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/nes/link_evidencebased_medicine_has_been_hijacked/

Whether you take that as evidence that magic exists is a different matter.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 14 March 2016 11:28:08PM 0 points [-]

If you don't mind, what's the name of the person who used physical rationality?

Comment author: ChristianKl 15 March 2016 07:18:53AM 0 points [-]

Given semi-private facebook sources, I think I'll rather write you a direct message then answer publically.