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Comment author: turchin 18 July 2016 10:14:26AM 1 point [-]

Why car safety is not advertise as its main quality?

Tesla suffered its first fatal accident in self-driving mode after driving 130 million ml, while the average mileage between fatal accidents in the US is 90 million ml. This is presented as evidence of the safety of Tesla.

However, the safety of cars of different classes of security has 1000 times difference.

Kia Rio has one fatal accident at about 10 million ml, and Subaru Legacy has less than one per billion km (in fact zero).

The latest data on the risks of different car models is here: http://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/driver-death-rates

I did some calculations based on presented data and typical car driving 20 000 ml a year assumption.

Dodge Caravan has the risk of a fatal accident on a 1 to 10 billion miles. (I saw it in similar sheet before.)

These cars are 3-5 times more expensive than the Kia, and due to the greater mass, strength and quality provides great security.

Comment author: username2 18 July 2016 10:51:37AM 2 points [-]

Because people believe that the driver's skill is significantly more important factor in determining safety. I don't know if this belief is correct but it sounds plausible. Do insurance companies offer different prices for owners of different cars?

Comment author: gjm 18 July 2016 11:09:44AM -2 points [-]

Not only driver skill, I'd have thought; also how they're used. The Dodge Caravan is a big thing with space for lots of people. I bet it's used mostly for transporting large-ish families around. Whether you're an expert driver or a very poor one, I expect you drive more slowly and more carefully when your spouse and children are on board.