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gjm comments on Open Thread, Aug 29. - Sept 5. 2016 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: gjm 12 September 2016 10:45:36PM -1 points [-]

You are repeatedly telling me I've said things I actually haven't, telling me I think things I actually don't, telling me I don't know things I actually do, etc., etc. You have not yet succeeded in communicating any new insights to me; we may of course disagree about why that is.

Bored now. Bye.

Comment author: reguru 13 September 2016 01:24:09AM 0 points [-]

Because you won't say it straight up how you are thinking, I have to guess, so that discussion can continue.

"You've just got yourself into a state where you are oblivious to the maps involved." What does this mean? So everything is a map?

You have not yet succeeded in communicating any new insights to me; we may of course disagree about why that is.

I've numerous times said communication is inherently flawed due to the nature of the concept. It's a subjective experience, which you can find out for yourself.

I know how it's like to think that you're smarter than anyone else, that's fine, I get that feeling too.

Comment author: Lumifer 13 September 2016 04:21:03AM 0 points [-]

I know how it's like to think that you're smarter than anyone else, that's fine, I get that feeling too.

<snort>

Get that feeling often..? X-D

Comment author: gjm 13 September 2016 01:42:39AM -1 points [-]

I have to guess, so that discussion can continue

I think you may have misunderstood the meaning of "Bored now. Bye." (And I see you just can't help continuing to speculate uncharitably about the contents of my mind.)

I will say it more explicitly: I do not believe that continuing to discuss this stuff with you is a good use of my time. I gravely doubt it's a good use of the time of anyone else here, but of course it's not for me to say what others should do. I think your attempts at "awareness" have regrettably left you hopelessly confused and self-deluded. I do not think you have anything useful to teach me, and I do not think you are open-minded enough to learn anything from me.

I am not interested in having discussion continue.

Comment author: reguru 13 September 2016 04:03:48AM -1 points [-]

I will say it more explicitly: I do not believe that continuing to discuss this stuff with you is a good use of my time. I gravely doubt it's a good use of the time of anyone else here, but of course it's not for me to say what others should do.

How is this relevant to the discussion? You're talking about different things now.

I think your attempts at "awareness" have regrettably left you hopelessly confused and self-deluded. I do not think you have anything useful to teach me, and I do not think you are open-minded enough to learn anything from me.

I can make the same argument, but I don't see how it leads to anywhere. Why not try and argue for your point? Whenever I make an argument you seem to ignore it completely, use your own definition or strawman. When I try and figure out what you're thinking, you're saying I am speculating what you're thinking two times now, so what? Then tell me what you are thinking.

Maybe you just realize you can't defend your point and have to rationalize the dissonance.

Have a good day,:D