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Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 07 October 2017 09:25:04PM *  0 points [-]

In which Different World do you live?

The SSC article Different Worlds discussed how different people perceive the (same) world to be quite different places. Let's find out whether that is also the case for the limited LW population.

My prediction (based on the follow-up SSC post is that the

This poll is based on a poll I conducted with my four boys (ages 6 to 13) after reading the SSC article. I found it quite surprising how different even such a presumably homogeneous group perceives their environment.

This poll is structured into two parts:

1) The first part is about your environment; how you see the people in the world around you. 2) The second part asks the same questions about you; how you see yourself.

Please consider taking a break between both parts and cover your answers from the first part.

Part 1:

How much action do you perceive in your environment?

calm/silent active/loud

How mindful is your environment?

unfriendly friendly

How smart are people in your environment on average?

dumb intelligent

How good are people in general?

evil good

How does your environment deal with minorities and human and behavioral variety?

racist/enforce conformity embrace variety

How much are people together or do things together?

prefer solitude/isolated sociable/gregarious

How are decisions in your environment typically made?

objective/rational emotional/intuitive

With how much force are things typically done in your environment? How careful are communications?

rude/abrasive/direct soft/easygoing

How are things organised in your environment?

ad-hoc/spontaneous structured/planned

How does your environment deal with risks?

cautious/shy courageous/brave

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Pause here

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Part 2:

How active are you?

calm/silent active/loud

How mindful in your communication are you?

unfriendly friendly

How smart are you?

dumb intelligent

How good are you?

evil good

How do you deal with minorities and human and behavioral variety?

racist/enforce conformity embrace variety

How much do you prefer to do things with others?

prefer solitude/isolated sociable/gregarious

How do you make decisions?

objective/rational emotional/intuitive

With how much force do you act and communicate?

rude/abrasive/direct soft/easygoing

How organised are you?

ad-hoc/spontaneous structured/planned

How do you deal with risks?

cautious/shy courageous/brave


Notes:

When I did my evaluation I considered counting each point as roughly 1/2 standard deviation from the mean. I'm pretty sure I didn't stick to it though.

Differences to the poll I did with my children:

  • That poll had a numeric scale from -5 to +5 which I decided was not suitable for the LW poll format.
  • That poll was done with all of them together, so they heard each others answers.
  • I skipped the intelligence and benevolence questions for self rating explaining that a) talking about ones intelligence is often problematic and b) that everyone is the here of their own story.

I didn't change the order or direction of the questions. I think the choice of questions leaves something to be improved - I came up with them in a train ride with the boys.

Submitting...

Comment author: MaryCh 10 October 2017 05:53:32AM 1 point [-]

What if my job requires a direct easygoing attitude to people coming in to our shop?

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 10 October 2017 09:56:31PM 0 points [-]

I didn't mean this to be about what is 'required' but how the environment overall is perceived to be. When I discussed this with my boys (who also have different environments - school, friends, at home - I left the specific environment open too. I talked more like how they see 'the world' around them.

Comment author: MaryCh 11 October 2017 05:55:54AM 0 points [-]

Makes sense. Although I would still think my environment is mostly direct and mostly easygoing:)

Comment author: Yosarian2 09 October 2017 10:27:31PM 1 point [-]

Yeah, I'm not sure how to answer this. I would do one set of answers for my personal social environment and a completely different set of answers for my work environment, to such a degree that trying to just average them wouldn't work. I could pick one or the other.

Reference: I teach in an urban high school.

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 10 October 2017 09:53:35PM 0 points [-]

I would average. After all even in one environment there are very many samples I guess, even if they cluster. But don't worry too much. It's just an LW poll :-)

Comment author: Dagon 08 October 2017 02:54:20PM 1 point [-]

I didn't find this terribly easy to understand. I think I participate in many different environments, with different distributions along these axes. Further, many of my environments (and my preferences) are multimodal, so averages don't really tell the right story.

Comment author: Gunnar_Zarncke 08 October 2017 09:14:45PM 0 points [-]

Could you take some kind of average? Normally I try to provide some kind of "Other/See results" option, but it's difficult with these kind of graded polls.