I like three of your examples and the doctor zany frame device. But I have some issues with the circularity part. First off, I just don't know that I understood it. Second, I don't see why you picked the specific example you used. I doubt that we have many goddists left, but it still seems like you could have used an example that isn't easy to view as an insult to a real group. Lastly, I suspect that your explanation is wrong. However, this could just be because of point one. So, I'm going to wait and see if you clarify things before I go into detail.