Qiaochu_Yuan comments on Effective Altruism Through Advertising Vegetarianism? - LessWrong

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Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 13 June 2013 07:47:26PM *  0 points [-]

I don't want to see animals get tortured because that would be an unpleasant thing to see, but there are lots of things I think are unpleasant things to see that don't have moral valence (in another comment I gave the example of seeing corpses get raped).

I might also be willing to assign dolphins and monkeys moral value (I haven't made up my mind about this), but not most animals.

Comment author: CoffeeStain 13 June 2013 08:25:10PM 0 points [-]

Do you have another example besides the assault of corpses? I can easily see real moral repugnance from the effect it has on the offenders, who are victims of their own actions. If you find it unpleasant only when you see it, would not they find it horrific when they perform it?

Also in these situations, repugnance can leak due to uncertainty of other real moral outcomes, such as the (however small) likelihood of family members of the deceased learning of the activity, for whom these corpses have real moral value.

Comment author: [deleted] 14 June 2013 09:01:25PM 2 points [-]

Do you have another example besides the assault of corpses?

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Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 13 June 2013 09:49:29PM *  0 points [-]

Seeing humans perform certain kinds of body modifications would also be deeply unpleasant to me, but it's also not an act I assign moral valence to (I think people should be allowed to modify their bodies more or less arbitrarily).