peter_hurford comments on Why Eat Less Meat? - LessWrong

48 Post author: peter_hurford 23 July 2013 09:30PM

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Comment author: peter_hurford 24 July 2013 03:01:31PM 0 points [-]

The reason is Group A seems more feasible to change at the moment. Though I am deeply interested in considerations of wild animal suffering as well. I don't see why you need to focus on one or the other.

Also, Group A at least has a clear action to take -- eating less meat. Group B does not have a clear action.

Comment author: pianoforte611 24 July 2013 03:28:45PM 1 point [-]

I specified ignoring convenience. Is the lack of a clear action for Group B your true rejection? Would you actually try to minimize suffering in wild animals if you knew how to?

Comment author: peter_hurford 24 July 2013 09:14:26PM *  0 points [-]

I would definitely try to minimize suffering in wild animals if I knew how to. Would you?

And why would you ignore convenience?

Comment author: pianoforte611 24 July 2013 09:26:08PM 1 point [-]

I'm interested in the intrinsic value of reducing suffering, which is why I posed the question. I wanted to know if you thought that the suffering of animals raised by humans is worse than the suffering of wild animals, all else being equal.

If you truly do care about the suffering of wild animals then I appreciate your consistency. I am not particularly bothered by fish getting eaten by sharks or zebras getting eaten by lions. I'm curious though, if you had sufficient resources, would you attempt to convert carnivorous animals to herbivores as well?

Comment author: peter_hurford 24 July 2013 10:04:24PM 2 points [-]

I'm curious though, if you had sufficient resources, would you attempt to convert carnivorous animals to herbivores as well?

Yes. Predation seems quite painful. Wouldn't you agree?

Comment author: pianoforte611 25 July 2013 03:00:10AM 0 points [-]

I think it is non-obvious that reducing predation is a worthwhile use of resources. I do appreciate your consistency in applying your altruistic principles though.