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Comment author: TuviaDulin 04 March 2015 08:35:27PM 10 points [-]

Didn't Harry JUST learn a lesson about not keeping secrets and assuming he's smarter than the rest of the world put together?

Comment author: garabik 04 March 2015 02:28:02PM 4 points [-]

I am starting to think that Lord Voldemort planned to commit suicide by proxy. Being without any personal aims, totally bored, without any happiness, surrounded by idiots, no chance of improvement - yet he cares about the world, at least somewhat, and realized that the original plan of playing chess with Harry would not alleviate his mood anymore anyway. And he has a better, happier and (age adjusted) more intelligent clone running around, so it is not like he will cease to exist altogether.

So he told Harry where to find Memory charms, prepared the plot, got the Stone (for Harry), made Harry take the Vow to keep his recklessness in limits, let him keep his wand and put him to the Final Exam.

The problem is that if he planned to be Obliviated, the plot was extremely complicated and relied on too many factors that could have gone wrong. So perhaps LV just threw the towel and said to himself, darn, let's Harry try whatever he can think about to do with us, and if he fails, well, it's not like I cannot try something else in some decades.

Comment author: TuviaDulin 04 March 2015 04:22:51PM 1 point [-]

He could have just Obliviated himself if that's all he wanted.

Comment author: WalterL 03 March 2015 08:32:00PM 2 points [-]

I have a sort of uber-theory that's been hanging over me since Harry heard the whisper to meet Hermione Granger on the train, since he felt irrationally certain that Magic was real back in the very first chapters.

This theory is that Future!Harry, or a friend, Future!Hermione is the one who most fits the bill, is God. Or Root on the Source Of Magic. The things that are inexplicable, that certainty, those prophecies, are just his the future self protecting its timeline, as it remembers doing, just like Harry writing "Don't mess with time" on his paper.

If so, they'll sucessfully take control of reality, and discover that their uber-Time

Comment author: TuviaDulin 04 March 2015 10:22:08AM 0 points [-]

Pretty sure the Atlantians created the Source. There's probably a dyson sphere in our star cluster providing all the power needed for magic.

Comment author: DanielLC 03 March 2015 08:11:33PM *  0 points [-]

We were told to keep Harry from dying immediately. The actual solution had Harry winning. I guess the moral of the story is that if you figure out how to accomplish what you wanted, don't stop thinking. Figure out how to accomplish more.

Harry said that he had to kill the Death Eaters. I disagree. There are ways he could have incapacitated them. Probably. My plans killed them all too, because their lives weren't worth the increased chance of failure.

I think Harry should have tortured Voldemort to insanity and then obliviated him. That way if the obliviation doesn't stick, Voldemort would still be tortured to insanity.

Comment author: TuviaDulin 04 March 2015 08:43:10AM 0 points [-]

Safest option would have been the dementor's kiss. Or, if the kiss isn't a thing in MoRverse, tossing his wand to them as Harry had mused.

Comment author: TuviaDulin 04 March 2015 08:21:33AM *  5 points [-]

Looks like I had the right idea after all. I think strands of strong acid or a highly reactive alkaline metal would have been a safer tactic than the nano-wire garrotes, since Harry wouldn't need to spend the extra action to constrict, but apparently Eliezer had this planned out from chapter one and it was too late to change it (due to the silver line, black robes, etc).

What came after, though? Not quite as convincing for me. I can't believe that Harry was able to transfigure Voldemort despite the resonance cascade. I also am skeptical that Voldemort didn't have any passive shields up against stunners. And what the hell is harry even trying to do with this convoluted ploy with Hermione anyway? Hasn't he learned anything about trying overly-complicated plots?

I'd also be VERY concerned about Voldemort having backup memories stored in his horcruxes, especially since some of them are of the old fashioned personality blueprint kind.

Comment author: TuviaDulin 02 March 2015 04:13:07PM 2 points [-]

Also,question. Do our suggestions need to be posted on fanfiction.net, or does this thread count?

Comment author: TuviaDulin 02 March 2015 04:10:08PM *  3 points [-]

"You needed worthy opponentss,"

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 01 March 2015 10:38:29PM 3 points [-]

No, I mean you transfigure something else into a spike, and the transfiguration pushes the material through the ground.

I'm saying he should use partial transfiguration to make acid or cesium threads through the air

Sheilds stop projectile weaponry (up to a point) and I'm not sure this is any different.

Comment author: TuviaDulin 02 March 2015 02:56:20PM 2 points [-]

It wouldn't be a projectile. It would be transfiguring part of the enemy INTO acid or some other deadly substance by including a bit of their body inside of Harry's conceptual "object."

Comment author: skeptical_lurker 01 March 2015 02:44:46PM 3 points [-]

I mean that transfigureing a steel spike through the ground is doable without partial transfigureation, so it would have been tried before and would be used as a battle tactic already if it worked.

Comment author: TuviaDulin 01 March 2015 09:22:12PM 0 points [-]

Wouldn't you need partial transfiguration to make the spike out of a piece of earth?

Regardless, that's not what I'm proposing that Harry should do. I'm saying he should use partial transfiguration to make acid or cesium threads through the air that include the death eaters and Voldemort's handgun in the transfigured material. That has never been done before, and its likely there won't be defenses against it.

Comment author: TuviaDulin 01 March 2015 09:16:32PM *  1 point [-]

Interesting analysis. I'd agree, except that we just learned that Harry got a big chunk of Voldemort's personality downloaded into him as a baby, and Voldemort is a narcissistic, amoral, manipulative trainwreck of a human being. Petunia might have played a role, but I think the author's intent is that these are Voldemort's traits making themselves known.

One wonders, though, if perhaps Tom Riddle had a narcissistic caretaker in the orphanage that raised him. Unlike canon!Riddle, the MoR version doesn't seem to have been born a sociopath, but rather made one.

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