All of Bayesian0's Comments + Replies

It is to note that evolutionary genetical optimization -> genotype -> phenotype, I am saying this as you extrapolate based on the bug study and metazoa are usually rather complex system, your argument is, as far as I know, sound, but a such a broad loss function might result in a variety of other behaviours, different from the intended purpose as well, what I am trying to do is expand on your point as it allows for a variety of interesting scenarios.

The post you linked contains a reference to the mathematical long-term fitness advantage of certain al... (read more)

1anithite
Definitely need some targeting criteria that points towards humans or in their vague general direction. Clippy does in some sense care about paperclips so targeting criteria that favors humans over paperclips is important. The duck example is about (lack of) intelligence. Ducks will place themselves in harms way and confront big scary humans they think are a threat to their ducklings. They definitely care. They're just too stupid to prevent "fall into a sewer and die" type problems. Nature is full of things that care about their offspring. Human "caring for offspring" behavior is similarly strong but involves a lot more intelligence like everything else we do.

Is it reasonable to talk like this, if talking about an implicit optimization algorithm? Especially if fitness is determined by environment and is evaluated immediately ( as in if a negative threshhold is passed, which is the complete absence of all instacnes of a gene, then the gene is out, until/if it remerges ), is my reasoning wrong?

Is there a reason that people often use sex or sexual selection as an example, I have seeen this quite some times now? Why is that important here? I am asking because it is used in "newcomer posts"/entry posts too, as in is... (read more)

Could you explain to me how that resource helps to understand? I am afraid I can't see any proofs, so how is this post different in terms of truthfulness or reasoning than this one?

I am quite interested in a proof regarding the you can't do X by definition (as that sounds like axiomatic reasoning ) , and a showcase of why the axioms are reasonable, if that is possible? Alternatively may I request a link to where the statement comes from, as I am new to the site.