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DCasey10

I quite liked this video on the topic when I watched it awhile back: 

Where he goes over the 2 reports and 2 studies on the topic and discusses "hey, wind tho."  What I most remember from is a high rated comment on the video, rather than in it proper.  An author who had been mauled, done interviews, and written a book on the topic claimed that bears committed to killing you don't tend to engage in threat displays - they stalk you, charge you from downwind and run you over, then circle back to start eating.  Many people reporting what did or didn't work to prevent being attacked by a bear were likely not actually at high risk of being attacked, they just shot or sprayed a bear who was attempting to be very clear about their boundaries.  Right or wrong, what the comment illustrates well is that the studies don't distinguish between aggression as threat display and aggression as actively dangerous behavior.

DCasey30

Is there a values question in here of "how bad is humanity not existing?" v. "how bad is Earth-originating consciousness existing under an AGI-backed authoritarianism?"  I'm not advancing either of these as my own position, just wondering if this could be driving at least some of the disagreement.