Drake Morrison

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Completed the survey. I really appreciate the work you do @Screwtape to make the census better!

I like this! Especially the Past, Present, Future framing. I usually split along epistemic and instrumental lines. So my fundamental questions were:
1. Epistemic: What do you think you know and how do you think you know it?
2. Instrumental: What are you trying to protect, and how are you trying to protect it?

I've had some notion of a third thing, but now I've got a better handle on it, thanks!

I'm fond of saying, "your ethics are only opinions until it costs you to uphold them"

The reason I think this is important is because "[t]o argue against an idea honestly, you should argue against the best arguments of the strongest advocates": if you write 3000 words inveighing against people who think comparative advantage means that horses can't get sent to glue factories, that doesn't license the conclusion that superintelligence Will Definitely Kill You if there are other reasons why superintelligence Might Not Kill You that don't stop being real just because very few people have the expertise to formulate them carefully.

 

There's a time for basic arguments, and a time for advanced arguments. I would like to see Eliezer's take on the more complicated arguments you mentioned, but this post is clearly intended to argue basics.

I believe DaystarEld was talking about this in various places at LessOnline. They've got a sequence going in more depth here: Procedural Executive Function, Part 1 

If they don't tell you how to hold them accountable, its a Chaotic intention, not a Lawful commitment

What do you mean by "necessary truth" and "epistemic truth"? I'm sorta confused about what you are asking.

I can be uncertain about the 1000th digit of pi. That doesn't make the digit being 9 any less valid. (Perhaps what you mean by necessary?) Put another way, the 1000th digit of pi is "necessarily" 9, but my knowledge of this fact is "epistemic". Does this help?

For what it's worth, I find the Dath Ilan song to be one of my favorites. Upon listening I immediately wanted this song to be played at my funeral. 

There's something powerful there, which can be dangerous, but it's a kind of feeling that I draw strength and comfort from. I specifically like the phrasing around sins and forgiveness, and expect it to be difficult to engender the same comfort or strength in me without it. Among my friends I'm considered a bit weird in how much I think about grief and death and loss. So maybe it's a weird psychology thing. 

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If you can code, build a small AI with the fast.ai course. This will (hopefully) be fun while also showing you particular holes in your knowledge to improve, rather than a vague feeling of "learn more". 

If you want to follow along with more technical papers, you need to know the math of machine learning: linear algebra, multivariable calculus, and probability theory. For Agent Foundations work, you'll need more logic and set theory type stuff. 

MIRI has some recommendations for textbooks here. There's also the Study Guide and this sequence on leveling up.

3blue1brown's Youtube has good videos for a lot of this, if that's the medium you like. 

If you like non-standard fiction, some people like Project Lawful.
 

At the end of the day, it's not a super well-defined field that has clear on-ramps into the deeper ends. You just gotta start somewhere, and follow your curiosity. Have fun!

Feature Suggestion: add a number to the hidden author names.

I enjoy keeping the author names hidden when reading the site, but find it difficult to follow comment threads when there isn't a persistent id for each poster. I think a number would suffice while keeping the hiddenness.

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