People will be like ‘we have these correlational studies so you should change your entire diet to things your body doesn’t tell you are good and that bring you zero joy.’

I mean, seriously, f*** that s***. No.

I do buy that people have various specific nutritional requirements, and that not eating vegetables and fruits means you risk having deficits in various places. The same is true of basically any exclusionary diet chosen for whatever reason, and especially true for e.g. vegans.

In practice, the only thing that seems to be an actual issue is fiber.

"I don't find this tasty" is not the same thing as "my body doesn't tell me it's good", and this concept is at the core of many suboptimal fad diets, as well as a common blanket justification for being fat and unhealthy.

If you eat Krispy Kremes and pizza exclusively, your body will "tell you it's good". The whole reason people get fat in the first place is that the taste and satiety mechanisms we've evolved in an ancestral context are maladaptive for the modern hypercaloric, hyperpalatable environment.

If you eat donuts and burgers, and take a multivitamin to avoid deficiencies, I'd challenge you to crush, chew and savour the multivitamin on your tongue and see what your body has to say about that.

By omitting vegetables and fruits, you not only risk vitamin deficiencies, but miss out on the most under-appreciated aspect of whole plant foods: their phytonutrient and antioxidant content. Plants have an enormous array of complex, immensely beneficial and poorly understood compounds which interact with our bodies in ways that invariably prove immensely beneficial. 

You can handwave the ubiquitously agreed upon benefits of fruit and vegetable consumption as "reliant on correlational studies", but this is a major handwave indeed, and includes ignoring the strong mechanistic bases to assume this is almost certainly true.

Fundamentally, the obesity epidemic appears largely due to a mismatch between the body's evolved hunger and satiety systems and the foods that have been created to wirehead them. Therefore, using "my body's hunger and satiety systems tell me that eating XYZ is good" is very uncompelling.


 

“Meaningless” is vaguely defined here. You defined free will at the beginning, so it must have some meaning in that sense.

It seems like “meaningless” is actually a placeholder for “doesn’t really exist”.

Which would make the trilemma boil down to:

1. Free will doesn’t exist
2. It exists and I have it
3. It exists and I don’t have it

And your basis for rejecting point 1 is that “truth wouldn’t matter, anything would be justified, therefore it’s false”.

I don’t think this follows.

Ultimately, what you’re pointing out is an issue of distinguishing between a non-free operating system that tends to accurately believe true things, versus a confused non-free operating system that tends to believe false things.

Just because this distinction cannot be subjectively resolved with 100% confidence (because what if the axioms of logic and self-coherence are wrong?), doesn’t make this automatically “moot”.

You have to at some level assume logic, memory and a degree of rationality no matter what circumstance you’re in. If you don’t assume that, then you’re not free either, you’re just acausally operating based on random whims - and that’s something you don’t control by definition.

Then of what use is the test? Of what use is this concept?

You seem to be saying “the true Turing test is whether the AI kills us after we give it the chance, because this distinguishes it from a human”.

Which essentially means you’re saying “aligned AI = aligned AI”

It’s true any job can find unqualified applicants. What I’m saying is that this in particular relies on an untenably small niche of feasible candidates that will take an enormous amount of time to find/filter through on average.

Sure, you might get lucky immediately, but without a reliable way to find the “independently wealthy guy who’s an intellectual and is sufficiently curious about you specifically that he wants to sit silently and watch you for 8 hours a day for a nominal fee”, your recruitment time will, on average, be very long, especially in comparison to what would likely be a very short average tenure given the many countervailing opportunities that would be presented to such a candidate.

Yes, it’s possible in principle to articulate the perfect candidate, but my point is more about real-world feasibility.

Do you genuinely think that you can find such people “reliably”?

Unless you’re paying gratuitously, the only people who would reliably be interested in doing this would be underqualified randoms. Expect all benefit to be counteracted by the time it takes to get into a productive rhythm, at which point they’ll likely churn in a matter of weeks anyway.

I cannot imagine losing this game as the gatekeeper either, honestly.

Does anyone want to play against me? I’ll bet you $50 USD.

I play on lichess often. I can tell you that a lichess rating of 2900 absolutely corresponds to grandmaster level strength. It is rare for FMs or IMs to exceed a 2800 blitz rating. Most grandmasters hover around 2600-2800 blitz.

The discussion on attack surfaces is very useful, intuitive and accessible. If a better standalone resource doesn’t already exist, such a (perhaps expanded) list/discussion would be a useful intro for people unfamiliar with specific risks.

This was excruciatingly frustrating to read, well done.