LESSWRONG
LW

lsusr
18628Ω2529017352
Message
Dialogue
Subscribe

Here is a list of all my public writings and videos (from before February 2025).

Sequences

Posts

Sorted by New

Wikitag Contributions

Comments

Sorted by
Newest
6lsusr's Shortform
5y
40
Enlightenment AMA
lsusr13d50

What you want to avoid are temples, churches, and missions.

Note: The Zen practice center I go to is officially listed on Google Maps as a "temple" even though it's not really a temple (the way Gordon is using the word "temple").

Reply
Enlightenment AMA
lsusr13d51

This is a good idea for a separate post.

Reply
Enlightenment AMA
lsusr14d30

This is good advice, especially "pay attention for a feeling of coming home".

I'm tempted to recommend books too, but all of them come with tradeoffs.

Reply
Enlightenment AMA
lsusr14d20

That looks to me like an accurate description of kensho, which is a taste of enlightenment. It indicates you're going in the correct direction and is a good source of insight.

Reply
Enlightenment AMA
lsusr15d10

I haven't asked.

Reply
Enlightenment AMA
lsusr15d42

There's two people I know in meatspace that have been doing this stuff for decades and to whom I look up for inspiration and guidence. They're super humble since they have no need to prove anything.

I've never seen them express the slightest stress or mental tension. Zuiko of them is an old woman who's hands hurt and are failing due to arthritis and she seemed more concerned with just listening to me than talking about her problems. In fact, she barely mentions her health issues unless I specifically ask. I have a friend who didn't even realize she was highly awakened until after I pointed it out to him.

To paraphrase Nick Cammarata: "If you want to be a billionaire, try getting enlightened first and then check to see how much you still care about becoming a billionaire." This awakening stuff tends to disassemble the status-seeking and ladder climbing motivational systems that cause people to get famous. I'm a more empathetic dancer due to meditation, but I doubt that'll make me world famous.

Reply
Enlightenment AMA
lsusr15d*42

I got a few of these powers too. Specifically "a greatly increased ability to tolerate loud sounds" and "greatly improved cognitive empathy". I might have "cured me of boredom" too, but it hasn't been long enough to be sure yet—and I don't know if this ability would withstand much worse life circumstances like prison.

In addition to that subset of Gordon's powers, my anxiety has lowered enough I stopped biting my fingernails after a lifetime of doing so. (An older genetic relative of mine who bites her nails and doesn't meditate has not experienced this.) This nailbiting thing is very recent—it started only about a month ago—so there is a chance it'll revert.

I've also just chilled out, in a way that makes me a better listener and causes other people to like me better. This one is recent too, but it's so common among meditators I'm not worried about it sticking.

Reply
Enlightenment AMA
lsusr15d20

Ah, I misunderstood your question about whether everybody can attain enlightenment. I take the modern perspective that most people can attain awakening, and there's no such thing as reincarnation, since incorporeal souls are not real.

Reply
Enlightenment AMA
lsusr16d30

Could any "enlightened" person self-immolate with apparent equanimity?

Concentration and enlightenment are different things. Concentration lets you self-immolate with apparent equanimity while concentrating. Enlightenment lets you self-immolate with equanimity while not concentrating.

There are degrees to awakening. Few are at that level of enlightenment or concentration.

Could you?

Right now? No. Absolutely not. The closest I've gotten are "I once touched a hot lid while cooking and didn't feel pain-as-suffering" and "I ate some very spicy food and sat in a chair unable to do anything useful, but felt no suffering from to the experience". (Both were automatic, requiring no concentration.)

If not, how far are you from being able to...

It's important to distinguish stage of awakening from pure concentration ability. If you want to self-immolate, that may require more concentration than mere awakening. I'm just guessing here, though. I don't know if I'll ever be able to self-immolate with equanimity—merely apparent or not—and have no intention to do so. In any case, my practice is more insight and integration focused. I'm not maxing out my concentration stat—at least right now.

...and is it possible for everybody to reach that state?

Theoretically? More-or-less. In practice, no. In any case, I feel questions like this about whether "everybody can" do something are too philosophically messy to give a definite answer to.

Reply
Enlightenment AMA
lsusr16d*20

Thanks!

Reply
Load More
Life Star
Daoism
True Stories
Adversarial Strategy
Dialogues on Rationality
How to Write
Bayeswatch
Luna Lovegood
Sunzi's《Methods of War》
Load More (9/11)
Daoism
2y
(+23)
66Enlightenment AMA
19d
127
2Луна Лавгуд и Комната Тайн, Часть 8
1mo
0
2Луна Лавгуд и Комната Тайн, Часть 7
1mo
0
3Луна Лавгуд и Комната Тайн, Часть 6
4mo
0
4Луна Лавгуд и Комната Тайн, Часть 5
5mo
0
3Луна Лавгуд и Комната Тайн, Часть 4
5mo
0
3Луна Лавгуд и Комната Тайн, Часть 3
5mo
0
2Луна Лавгуд и Комната Тайн, Часть 2
5mo
1
44Follow me on TikTok
5mo
8
19Legibility
5mo
22
Load More