MazevSchlong

Really a curated post? This is the modern rationalism movement in a nutshell… explain obvious, common sense topics with 5,000 words and a few spreadsheets and infographics. 

Yawn. There’s a reason people have stopped taking us seriously…

Good point about AI possibly being different levels of conscious depending on their prompts and “current thought processes”. This surely applies to humans. When engaging with physically complex tasks or dangerous extreme sports, humans often report they feel almost completely unconscious, “flow state”, at one with the elements, etc

Now compare that to a human sitting and staring at a blank wall. A totally different state of mind is achieved, perhaps thinking about anxieties, existential dread, life problems, current events, and generally you might feel super-conscious, even uncomfortably so. 

Mapping this to AI and different AI prompts isn’t that much of a stretch…

I think this is a great point here: 

None of us have ever managed an infinite army of untrained interns before
 

Its probable that AIs will force us to totally reformat workflows to stay competitive. Even as the tech progresses, it’s likely there will remain things that humans are good at and AIs lag. If intelligence can be represented by some sort of n-th dimensional object, AIs are already super-human at some subset of n, but beating humans at all n seems unlikely in the near-to-mid term. 

In this case, we need to segment work, and have a good pipeline for tasking humans with the work that they excel at, and automating the rest with AI. Young zoomers and kids will likely be intuitively good at this, since they are growing up with this tech.  

This is also great in a p(doom) scenario, because even if there are a few pesky things that humans can still do, there’s a good reason to keep us around to do them! 

Sure fair point! But generally people gossiping online about missed benchmark questions, and then likely spoiling the answers means that a question is now ~ruined for all training runs. How much of these modest benchmark improvements overtime can be attributed to this?

The fact that frontier AIs can basically see and regurgitate everything ever written on the entire internet is hard to fathom!

I could be really petty here and spoil these answers for all future training runs (and make all future models look modestly better), but I just joined this site so I’ll resist lmao … 

But isn’t this exactly the OPs point? These models are exceedingly good at self-contained, gimmicky questions that can be digested and answered in a few hundred tokens. No one is denying that! 

Secondly, there are high chances that these benchmark questions are simply in these models datasets already. They have super-human memory of their training data, there’s no denying that. Are we sure that these questions aren’t in their datasets? I don’t think we can be. First off, you just posted them online. But in a more conspiratorial light, can we really be sure that these companies aren’t training on user data/prompts? DeepSeek is at least honest that they do, but I think it’s likely that the other major labs are as well. It would give you gigantic advantages in beating these benchmarks. And being at the top of the benchmarks means vastly more investment, which gives you a larger probability of dominating the future light-cone (as they say…)

The incentives clearly point this way, at the very minimum!