Wow, blast from the past! |n|n|cfffcc00
is in many tooltip strings in Warcraft 3 (with the result of coloring the following text some light gold hue).
Lots of examples: https://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/tooltip-tutorial.51966/ (archived)
Saw it so many times making custom maps, cffffcc
is burned into my memory. I guess the first "c" stands for "color"; it's not part of the hex code.
I'm getting the sentiment "just sort the signal from the noise, same as always", and I disagree it's the same as always. Maybe if you already had some habits of epistemic hygiene such as default to null:
The mental motion of “I didn’t really parse that paragraph, but sure, whatever, I’ll take the author’s word for it” is, in my introspective experience, absolutely identical to “I didn’t really parse that paragraph because it was bot-generated and didn’t make any sense so I couldn’t possibly have parsed it”, except that in the first case, I assume that the error lies with me rather than the text. This is not a safe assumption in a post-GPT2 world. Instead of “default to humility” (assume that when you don’t understand a passage, the passage is true and you’re just missing something) the ideal mental action in a world full of bots is “default to null” (if you don’t understand a passage, assume you’re in the same epistemic state as if you’d never read it at all.)
If you hadn't already cultivated such habits, it seems to me things have definitely changed since 1993. Amidst the noise is better-cloaked noise. Be that due to Dead Internet Theory or LLMs (not sure if the reason would matter). I understood OP's question as asking basically how do we sort signal from noise, given such cloaking?
I'll propose an overarching principle to either read things carefully enough for a gears-level understanding or not read it at all. And "default to null" is one practical side of that: it guards against one way you might accidentally store what you think is a gear, but isn't.
Nitpick: "...is extremely bizarre" can sound prescriptive. If you only meant it descriptively, maybe "extremely unusual".
Basically agree, but not an useful comment.
I'd nuance that as that being alive and energetic is fun -- but when my body no longer grants energy, it's like death already. Say I'm trying to take notes about the content of this thread, but I'm so tired I barely produce anything. If the terms of my body are such that I must first do a timeskip to tomorrow to get more energy, then I want the timeskip.
I guess I understand becoming sleep-deprived and staying up anyway if you don't notice your IQ dropping...
I think some Rationalists believe everything is supposed to fit into one frame, but Frames != The Truth. [...] we should be able to pick up and drop frames as needed, at will.
Aye - see also In Praise of Fake Frameworks. It's helped me interface with a lot people that would've otherwise befuddled me. That gives me a more fleshed-out range of possible perspectives on things, which shortcuts to new knowledge.
But perhaps it's worth thinking twice when or at least how to introduce this skill, because it looks like a method of doing Salvage Epistemology and so could invite its downsides if taught poorly. I'm undecided whether that's worth worrying about.
Gonna reuse the term "fluency escape velocity"!
A major point of the workshop is to just grind on making cruxy-predictions for 4 days, and hopefully reach some kind of "fluency escape velocity", where it feels easy enough that you'll keep doing it.
Fits my experience with a lot of mental skills, because it often takes me many months or years after reading about a skill that I actually reach a point where I've stacked up enough experience with it that it becomes fluent / natural / a tool in my toolkit.
Disclaimer: I am not sure I've done what you think of as Looking, but all your metaphors make sense to me.
If I "get" the general thing, then would you agree that aside from Fake Frameworks, experience with Focusing must help? Especially for people who haven't yet meditated much or find the idea of a "non-verbal thought" elusive.
I'm thinking of Focusing as targeting something that can also happen in meditation, but could take some beginner meditators a long time until they get direct experience with. It's the way that your mind can suddenly produce a new awareness or new knowledge, without any conscious chain-of-thought, any verbal reasoning behind it.
Focusing hammers that home again and again, yes, there's a way and it's right there. It gave me a lot of confidence to try the mental move of "step back and wait until I See Something" in a variety of contexts.
PS: Thank you for pointing out the purpose of koans. I had "dissolved" them, but now I see, that perhaps I can try to answer them anyway!
If it helps, your explanations made perfect sense to me, like plain English. So thank you for putting yourself out there; you gave me and others something to chew on.
Well-spotted! My other comment mentions an example of literal "|" in Warcraft 3.