This made me unreasonably happy. Thank you :D

Thank you for the in-depth thoughts!

Thank you!

It was a joke :) I had been warned by my friends that the joke was either only mildly funny or just entirely confusing. But I personally found it hilarious so kept it in. Sorry for my idiosyncratic sense of humor ;)

Oh cool!

I was asking for any connection of any type. The overlap just seemed so great that I’d expect there to be a connection of some sort. The Clearer Thinking link makes sense and is an example, thank you!

Oh and also, thank you for checking and sharing your thoughts! :)

I didn't look deeply in to the material, but good branding gives people a good feeling about a thing, and I think rationality could use some better branding. In my experience a lot of people bounce off a lot of the material cause they have negative associations with it or it's not packaged in a way that appeals. I think even if (I didn't check) the material is too superficial to be useful as content, it's still useful to increase people's affinity / positive association with rationality.

Yeah, I can second this entire sentiment. I try to write up parenting tricks that work for me that are clearly not going to reflect negatively on my kids, or will even feel too personal. And then I realized that a lot of the most valuable information that I could read as a parent, I'll never find cause a parent with high integrity is not going to write down very negative experiences they had with their kids and all the ways they failed to respond optimally. It reminds me a little of Duncan's social dark matter concept.

Oh this is amazing. I can never keep the two apart cause of the horrible naming. I think I’m just going to ask people if they mean intuition or reason from now on.

Thank you for the clarification!

I think I agree this might be more a matter of semantics than underlying world model. Specifically:

Bill.learning = "process of connecting information not known, to information that is known"

Shoshannah.learning = "model [...] consisting of 6 factors - Content, Knowledge Representation, Navigation, Debugging, Emotional Regulation, and Consolidation." (note, I'm considering a 7th factor at the moment: which is transfer learning. This factor may actually bridge are two models.)

Bill.teaching = "applying a delivery of information for the learner with a specific goal in mind for what that learner should learn"

Shoshannah.teaching = [undefined so far], but actually "Another human facilitating steps in the learning process of a given human"

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With those as our word-concept mappings, I'm mostly wondering what "learning" bottoms out to in your model? Like, how does one learn?

One way to conceptualize my model is as:
Data -> encoding -> mapping -> solution search -> attention regulation -> training runs

And the additional factor would be "transfer learning" or I guess fine-tuning (yourself) by noticing how what you learn applies to other areas as well.

And a teacher would facilitate this process by stepping in an providing content/support/debugging for each step that needs it.

I'm not sure why you are conceptualizing the learning goal as being part of the teacher and not the learner? I think they both hold goals, and I think learning can happen goal-driven or 'free', which I think is analoguous with the "play" versus "game" distinction in ludology - and slightly less tightly analoguous to exploration versus exploitation behavior.

I'm curious if you agree with the above.

Hmmm, I think ‘healthy’ is saying too much. This is one particular way of being psychologically healthy, but in my model you can be psychologically healthy and suffer more than 5 minutes per week and experience inner conflict some of the time. I think this is implicitly making the target too narrow for people that care about getting there and might consider this a reference point.

Also, I’m curious if the depression comment also refers to adaptive depression, like when someone very close to you dies and you need to adapt? (I’m not making a case that prolonged grief is good but I would make the case that grieving for 6 months or so is not psychologically unhealthy).

All the other points seem fine to me ❤️